Hello Zeratgames sorry for taking up your time but the game simply isnt working for me i am on a mac and wondering wether im making a mistake or if you have heard such complaints before. best wishes.
Greetings everyone, I want to express my opinion about the situation that this game has become a catalyst for. Many people say that games are just games, they are harmless, because after playing GTA you don't want to kill all the people in real life. But in fact, games lead to desensitization, i.e. loss of sensitivity of certain things. And the desensitization of incest and rape is very bad, because rape is still a socially acute and significant topic, and the loss of sensitivity to the problem as a very significant one means that the solution to this problem will be delayed. In the case of murders, this is already an axiom, murder is a sin, you will go to prison for murder, and the topic of rape has only recently been established as something that deserves capital punishment and is still not fully understood. Rape is not a harmless fetish, because it implies coercion, as well as zoophilia, as well as pedophilia. Should we wait for a game about zoophilia and pedophilia now if we give this game the green light? People who support the developer and express their position by saying that FREEDOM FOR CREATIVITY, DOWN WITH MORALISTS, LONG LIVE FUN, I'm nobody to judge you. And I think I have nothing to talk about with you, and I won't be able to convince you, just like you can convince me, so you don't have to tell me which bad moralists censored your games. Have a good day everyone.
Oh my here we go again this remins me same shit of lolicon hentai,but there also comes idea of characters like nobara or penny goon and they start to same idea,teen isnt small but what gives idea is that fiction is fiction there always will be both sides of this theme
"Desensitization" happened over the years when it comes to violent movies as well. Many movies from the 70s and 80s were deemed to be to be too extreme back then and today nobody really cares. Evil Dead was banned in Germany for quite some times and now you can see it as long as you are 16 or older - even in Germany which probably has the most extreem youth protection laws one could imagine. The reason for this is that people are used to see this sort of FICTIONAL violence now so it does not shock them anymore. However they are aware that it is just a movie. The same thing does NOT apply to the real world. You won't go out, see a person ripped to shreds and say to yourself "Oh, I've seen this in Evil Dead - it does not shock me".
So as long as you are aware that this game is only telling a fictional story how could it desesitize you for real events? Both things are completely different. I mean - this is not even an actual game in which you are allowed to control your character and even though the render do look pretty good they are still far from looking real. You are basically watching a storybook with some animated scenes in it about a pretty dark story with a psychological background. So why again should I now have any more desire to go out and abuse women just because I watched a storybook about a sick kid and clicked on some choice buttons to branch inside the story?
Do you think that fictional stories cannot reflect on reality, simply because of the separation of the fictional and the real? I think so, maybe I'm wrong. It's probably not the fault of the game here, and it's just my fears that people will be indifferent to one more thing. But thank you for clarifying that it is unlikely that people will imitate the game and devalue the problem because of its demonstration.
By the way, what do you think about such a thing as the formation of tastes in games? Let's say that rape games became a hit and they started being released in batches, and this formed a new taste among the players. Comparatively like some anime girls who look and behave like small children, but they have been credited with 300 years of life, therefore porn with them is "legal", people have formed expectations and desires for this in reality. We can say that the media is not to blame, the people are to blame, but I adhere to the position that the authors themselves create their audience, that they are responsible for appropriating the audience.
Rome did not have internet and yet they committed rape by kidnapping women in the Sabines and populating their cities with homeless vagrant men. Rape has been around for centuries, and yet everyone is bitching about fictional women in a game and ignoring child marriages in third world countries. You are a rape supporter focusing on fictional characters instead of the situation in Somalia or Afghanistan. Women's rights are a joke to you and it shows.
Am I now unable to express my thoughts and opinions about fictional things and their impact simply because I am inactive or not saying things about real horrific situations? Your argument is quite radical, "if not one thing, it means absolutely the opposite," "if you don't do anything or don't mention it, it means you encourage." He has a right to exist. But to your chagrin, I'm not in a position right now to take active action for real things. I can only talk about something so small now, compared to the situations in Afghanistan or Somalia, so that maybe later I can learn to understand more complex things. I'm sorry if I offended you, and have a nice day.
i really love that we get to choose a Dom orLove ending. The point system (lust/dom) is a clever little system that i wish more games like this used. I cant wait to see whats to come for this game and future projects from Zeratgames.
You are absolutely every right to have this opinion too. The problem are the people who can not distinguish, they think "oh i am not the only one and therefore i can do that". And yes i am not a fan of free speech. The humans need limits.
Exactly. The problem ARE the people that cannot distinguish between fiction and reality ... but THEY are the problem and not the game. Normal adult people are absolutely capable of seeing the difference - those who don't have a psychological problem that probably will get problematic with and without such games.
I also read ALL comments here in this thread (I was curious if I would find some arguments that would give me actual insight on the question why anybody could be afraid of a game people play in their rooms) and though there were some insults coming from BOTH sides I could not find anything that I would consider to be proof that free speech needs limits. Call to violence, doxing and things like that ... because these are really dangerous.
You're so focused on these fictional characters you don't even notice real rape and child marriages? Thanks for confirming what I already said. You draw all attention away from real rape by focusing on a fictional character. Your actions here support real rape.
I bought the game solely because of the witch hunt from women were doing on twitter and media. After playing the game, it was nothing like what they said. There are much worse games, including on steam, but I won't mention to not expose them. You have to be careful that games like this don't escape the bubble.
Its for the domination route ending. On steam or down below, if its blocked in youre country, is the walktrough to get it.
in short you have to dominate nicolle enough times, "breaking" into her bedchamper, doant let her go to work without using her, doant believe her in the club toilet are some important points.
Okay, I guess I unlocked all achievements, one secret achievement (are there more?) and all scenes inclusing the secret ending. The secret ending is absolutely great though I have no idea what these "institution" should be. The name of the achievement is absolutely fitting since I thought the exact same thing.
@zeratgames: There's something wrong if you don't go to the club at all. Even if you are on the love path in that case the ending will start with the last act and the last act is in domination mode.
What bregoran said. Easiest way is to go the dom route and don't have sex in the club. If you are on the love routre and go to the club I guess you cannot prevent to have sex and if you skip the club completely (go to sleep) the game suddenly will end at the last act (seems to be a bug for me).
Rotting for playing a videogame ... sure. Honestly it would not be worth my time to enter a comment section of a game I dislike just to tell people that those who play it are bad people in my eyes. But if it makes you feel better ... okay.
For playing a video game you're not into? You sound like nothing but an insecure brat who seriously needs to go solve actual real world crimes for once.
Most of us didn't even know this game existed prior to people like yourself that hate it causing an uproar and getting it removed from steam. Steam gets hundreds to thousands of games uploaded every single month. The fastest way to kill it would have been to totally ignore it, causing the drama is only going to benefit the dev.
Not only do they get free massive advertising but itch only take a 10% cut on sales versus steam taking a 30% sales cut. So realistically all of this is only going to benefit the dev and give them more money to create more of the content that you hate.
I'm not saying that you're wrong or that the dev is right in having made this VN, I haven't played it yet. That being said I have bought it so I can see how heinous it actually is and judge for myself which in turn is supporting the dev financially.
Again I can't stress enough that this dev wouldn't have ever received my money if it wasn't for me discovering the game via a content creator making a big deal about it.
So regardless of whether this game does end up being as heinous and evil as everyone is shouting about or not... Know that your adverse reaction to it is only ever helping it grow and changing that is the only way to ever have any meaningful impact on it.
I am a woman and I bought this because it's hot. Maybe instead of focusing on fictional characters you should spend your time helping rape victims by volunteering at a local women's shelter
Hey also a rape victim! Just because it’s a coping mechanism doesn’t mean it isn’t harmful! Playing a game where you take away women’s bodily autonomy isn’t a good coping mechanism and you should seek out therapy to find a more healthy form of coping!
If I had nickel for everytime I've heard this I'd be rich. Look I understand the desire to be kind and to heal but this stuff is fantasy and stays firmly in that realm for me. Unlike actual assault there is no harm that comes from this stuff even if a person enjoys it for simple sexual gratification. There is no fight to be won here, it's just people jerking off.
Look at the ratio, sweetie. You're fine. You're a strong individual that copes with fictional characters while Lilies is lashing out with hatred and hypocrisy. You're not surviving, you're thriving.
You're here posting, like the rest of us. Why do you care if anyone buys this? Nobody cares if you play Mickey Mouse and the Enchanted Petting Zoo or whatever it is you like. Ever kill anything in a game? Disgusting. Ever accept a reward for helping the weak or innocent, after a quest? Disgusting. Do you like games that were made with Javascript? Disgusting! Why don't you tell us what kinds of games you play, so that we can judge you? I bet we'll find something disgusting on your list.
Having said that, I don't own this game yet, but I plan to buy it just because Steam banned it. The stuff I've heard is in this game doesn't interest me, but banned games do. (as long as they're legal to sell)
You screechers are pathetic. Shut up and mind your own business about what people are playing. The only thing you're accomplishing bitching about this game is embarrassing yourself.
Pretty hypocritical considering you support multiple games with non-consensual content.
In addition to non-con, some of Love Lock's fetishes include abduction, stalking, choking and predator/prey. Another game has assault, kidnapping, necrophilia and cannibalism. Yet another game you support has as planned content gore/amputation/beheadings, drugging people and implied child abuse.
Take your outrage and virtue signaling and go support some real life women like those that are second class citizens or worse in some countries.
Heard of this game through the news of its banning/ being pulled from steam. Definitely more than just a 'rape sim' as many people are convinced it is. First 3d vn iv played usually avoid them when steam recommends them feeling they look cheap. Usually play JP vn and eroge and used to stuff like clockups euphoria. Was surprised by the quality after finishing my first playthrough. Some honestly good cinematic shots and camera framing the use of music set the mood for certain scenes well. Would have like some scenes to have been more animated instead of the slide shows. Some plot points felt like the ended abruptly and not as I was expecting. Maybe if it was longer could have been more fleshed out but overall enjoyed the game and story.
Nichole best girl very sexy especially when balling her eyes out. Loved watching her slowly break over time. More sobbing and gagging VO work would have been nice. Eve was more of a funny side story being a walking porno parody. And Tommy's mom kinda felt random.
Hopefully this outrage doesn't scare off the dev from making more games like this. I'm excited to see if more episodes will be added later or the next project. Keep up the work!!
Just finished the game with the love ending and the domination ending. However given the final scene in the epilogue of the domination ending I am wondering how the two scenes before this (Aunt/Tommy's Mom) would fit here. I won't say more because these would be extreme spoilers ... but I guess it is a bug and hope that the devs will read this.
Honestly, I would never have known about this game without the controversy. I don't like anyone telling me what I can and cannot think, do, or enjoy. So I had to see for myself.
The game is fine and not quite as linear as people think. Don't be compliant, be defiant.
My man !! So many cultured people. feeling right at home XD. Finished both games just a while ago, waiting for S3 of Projekt Passion and 0.9 update of Eternum. Man its so damn good !!
Yes, my wife and I particularly liked the scene in that dirty club bathroom. It made us nostalgic about the dirty shit that we would do in sixth street bars in our 20s.
I went out of my way to avoid regional restrictions and the absence of SWIFT in my region just to buy this game, while not being sure if I even want to play it - only to prove a point and to get my money to the devs. Developers, you are great, stand strong. Much love.
The secrets achievement page seems to have enough space for two secret achievements, one's unlocked by allowing Gary to do 100 pushups, what's the other?
To hell with the woke agenda and their sensitive snowflakes this game is right up there with the desert stalker and treasure of Nadia series...awesome game keep up the good work don't let the close minded and easily offended stop you from making something great that so many enjoy it's just a game and ones perspective view of his own creativity to bring joy and fun to the adult gaming community...keep it up and keep your head held high bro the snowflakes can go find a woke agenda to deal with In some deep dark cave in the pits of hell...screw em...good work and good job broski
P.s. and if steam wants to drop all the adult vns it'll be a set back but the true fans and supporters will still be there to back up the support for the devs
Yeah these people are ruining everything once they try and "fix" one issue they will try to censor and "fix" another! they need to just disappear! we need to fight back! ✊💯
Right now steam is trying to remove the adult visual novels to avoid fallback from controversial (let's say interests that may conflict morally with the public eye and the woke movement isn't helping this process...and the gen ex non binary thing is just another supporting problem backing the woke movement so really it all comes down to politics business but it'll be the developers that get hit the hardest...I feel bad for them...due to the punishment for there creativity.
@Horizon89 Bro Woke agenda,LGBTQ, Feminist went heat over this game than the other adult game all we can do is push it back against these ppl who tried to ruin our fun yet again there's no place here for them either better say than sorry
I'm actually considering getting into web development to build a safe haven for developers like this and fight against the woke agenda but I have a lot to learn about web development and legalities over it all before I can step that direction...because there isn't a safe haven for developers with this kind of creativity and a few other touchy adult vns...but that's going to take time I truly hope this dev doesn't let to fall back stop him from finishing this game....it's a time crunch all the way around
Exactly just because you dont like something or it doesn't align wth your views doesn't mean you should censor it for others to play! We need to give those censorship puritans ALOT of push back!
Is this still being worked on? I've discovered a few issues both with text and just "how did that happen" not sure if path corrections, or extra aspects are still being planned.
one of the bnest games ive ever played i have unlocked all the scenes and achievement i really really really hope you make more games and that there is more content coming
Type your name, and choose relationship with the characters ingame.
Yes i am an Adult and i am more than 18 years old
Choose this option if you are 18 or ABOVE.
Unfortunately i'm not that old.
Choose this option if you are less than 18 years old
...AND IF YOU EVER LIE IN STEAM PREFERENCES AGAIN, I'LL KICK YOUR ASS AND TELL YOUR MOM - AND TRUST ME, I KNOW HOW TO TALK TO MOMS.
Episode 1
If any answer is skipped, it means it's not important.
Tommy:
Take the money
Tommy's Mom
For such a pretty girl... -> Yeah, that's me -> Sure
If you are interested in sharing content, tell Tommy about the meeting.
Talk to Tommy -> Tell Him
Tommy's Mom again
Can't we just get to know... -> Shut Up -> *Grab her tits*
Gary - University
Yeah, He's Ok.
If you choose the second option, you will get negative points in your relationship with the Father, which during one of the endings will have enormous significance.
Nicole
So it's my fault? -> But i'm very glad i saw it. -> Just thinking about these... -> Who said something about money? -> I' a fan of your body -> I will take good care... -> Grab the straps.
Episode 2
If any answer is skipped, it means it's not important.
Sheilla
Hey, Did you really mean... -> Throw the money in her face
Nicole
Leave the TV on
Take a look at her body -> You should have tempted him -> You gave me a handjob
You are so good at this x3 , Admit it x2 -> Touch her ♥♥♥♥♥ -> Force her
I'm so sorry...
This option will give you the first points for the love route.
Episode 3
If any answer is skipped, it means it's not important.
Dad
Because you're sleeping with...
Nicole
Leave the TV on
Push the door -> type "Hello" -> Nothing happened, right Nicole?
B -> Show her the video -> Get on her lap -> Grab her hands -> ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ -> She definitely need more. -> Try fingering x3
Episode 4
If any answer is skipped, it means it's not important.
No Mercy
Dad
Pick up the phone -> Sure dad, no problem.
Nicole
From the day you stopped... -> That you and me will c@m while... -> What's the problem? -> Kiss (For Achievement)
Cunnilingus her -> DONT PICK ANYTHING x3
F@ck her mouth -> Put your hand on her leg
Aunt
Eve's choices are not that important now (it will change only dialogue)
Computer
Open browser -> Kick the computer -> Open History -> Delete History
Aunt
Eve's choices are not that important now (it will change only dialogue)
Photo
This dress -> I'v seen this date somewhere -> Very nice watch -> type LOPEZ
Nicole
Because i'm the only thing... -> You are beautiful... -> Order her to clean -> Kiss her
Episode 5
If any answer is skipped, it means it's not important.
Nicole - Balcony
Offer her a Cigarette X2 -> I like it when you take something... -> Look at her legs
How are you? -> Are you drinking again? -> Grab her head
Eve - Phone
So you were thinking... -> Just Talk? -> What are you wearing? -> I will ♥♥♥
Nicole - Morning
DOMINATION ROUTE
(This path will earn you 2 achievements and the Speed Perk.)
Unbutton her blouse -> I'll consider it if you... -> Grab her by the hair
To get the perk, you must complete the minigame at a speed of at least 2.1x+. This means you need to "make a mistake" at least once.
LOVE ROUTE
The key moment is when you stop doing anything further when Nicole asks you to (meaning, don’t pull her by the hair onto the couch). However, this isn’t a decisive moment, and later on, you'll still have the chance to change the path.
A phone conversation on the couch.
The conversations don't have much impact, but they serve as a supplement to the storyline.
Store
Go to the store -> click on anything -> If you are on the DOM route and have a Speedperk, you will be able to catch the thief. Taking the purse will save you from scratching scratch cards, but you will receive negative points in your relationship with Father, which may affect the ending of the story.
Collect your package -> Ask about something special for dates -> Buy blindfold (if you want sharing scene) > Leave shop
Call Gary (If you wait until 100 push-ups, you will see a short animation and a hidden achievement (not available on Steam)) -> Visit Tommy -> Code "10104"
Tommy's house
If you want a sharing scene, cover her eyes with blindfold and let Tommy join in.
In this scene, you can earn several achievements. To do this, you must see all possible endings. The threesome scene and the two "solo" endings. At one point, you also need to kiss her when the timer appears on the screen.
In front of tommy's house
You can sell him hard drugs, weed, or none at all. If you choose hard drugs, it will completely change Tommy's mom's behavior, and also lead to a different ending to their story. It will also allow you to unlock the additional final scene in Episode 6.
Store
Go back to the store.
Buy White Wine
Buy Red Wine (Merlot)
Buy Sexy Lingerie.
Scratch some cards - you need to have at least 110$ after you bought everything.
Eve
Take a bus to Eve -> Give her white wine -> You can force her for an additional animation and then roll back and watch some movies with her.
You can stay for the night (Animation and achievement) or be kind and leave. (Don't be rude to her if you don't want to block her path).
Evening with Nicole
Return Home -> Tought talk for a cheating... -> You've been such... -> Give her lingerie and red wine. -> Ask for a favor ->
Go to her bedroom if you want to continue the Dom Route (Achievement).
You can also enter, and you'll still have the option to choose the Love Route later, but at this point, your previous choices will be important. If you’ve been rude to Nicole the whole time, you might have the Love Route blocked later on, so to avoid the risk – let her sleep.
It’s possible that you will have information stating that you earned 22 out of 24 achievements – this is because you skipped some scenes (e.g., the night at Eve's).
Episode 6
If any answer is skipped, it means it's not important.
Nicole morning (only if you entered the bedroom)
DOM ROUTE
Well... you did, to me -> Nope. You didn't. -> The only thing you need to... -> Choke Her
LOVE ROUTE
Well... you did, to me -> I didn’t want you to feel used...
Eve
You can choose what you want her to do.
Player bedroom
Call Dad
If for some reason you don't have $100, call your Father. If you have a good relationship with him, you can ask him for money at the cost of your relationship, or simply talk to him normally to further increase that value.
He won't help you if you took the wallet instead of giving it back to the old lady!
Call Tommy
If you sold him hard drugs earlier, you will see the NTR scene.
Rent a car
Required to go to the club with Nicole.
Visit police officer
You can choose this to learn more about the storyline.
Go to sleep
If you sold hard drugs to Tommy, you will see an additional scene with Tommy's mom + an achievement.
Invite Nicole
DOM ROUTE
With whose permission?
LOVE ROUTE
If you needed any time, that time should be spent together.
Before Club
DOM ROUTE
Just remember, I’ll be watching you. -> Wait until she gets out on her own to watch -> You bet she is. Isn't that right, bubble butt?
LOVE ROUTE
Gotta give it to you, you look hot in that dress. -> Open the door for her -> Yeah, she's a real MILF.
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Inside Club
You need to buy her tequila once and mojito once. The third choice doesn't matter.
If you want to unlock the love route ending, you need to dance both sequences correctly – the third one isn't important.
DOM ROUTE ending
I think that’s ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Spank her 5x times for achievement.
LOVE ROUTE ending
Okay, if you say so... Let’s head back to the car
Episode 7
If any answer is skipped, it means it's not important.
Nicole - Morning
At this point, your path has already been set. If by the end of episode 6 you haven't seen any ending involving sex, you've ended up on a path that will result in a non-positive ending. However, if you return to it after viewing one of the positive endings, you'll unlock a hidden ending (Only in Hard Mode!).
Tommy's mom scene - Wander around the city
To see it, you cannot sell hard drugs to Tommy.
During the conversation in the restaurant, if you want Tommy to join, ask his mom where he is. and then -> Yeah... Experienced.
Eve scene - additional one
Don't leave spa - just wait
Conqueror achievement - During Nicole S*x Scene
To unlock the Conqueror achievement, you need to click 'an*l' for the third time when you reach the maximum level of arousal.
any one got a save file i can use that has all scenes unlocked? Missing a few and there is only so many times you can replay the game in a short time to try unlock them. add me on discord if you wanna send me your save file with all scenes unlocked. Discord name: Narque
Loving the game! Can anyone help me with 1 Achievement and 1 scene unlock? I'm missing Night Stalker and I have no idea, and the only scene I'm missing is between Ep6 Nicole Love ending and Ep7 Good morning (Dom) It's been driving me crazy! Any help would be much appreciated!
The scene you are missing is the Nightstalker scene too.
For both follow Tommys mom route and give tommy in ep5 after the mother scene (no middlefinger) hard drugs. on the ep6 evening doant go to the club, insteat go to sleep and you will get the scene and achievement.
Do random poses until you're above 4 points, then do anal, then keep switching between anal and any other pose. Make sure the last pose is anal to get the achievement.
my problem right now is that, after you pay for the game, the download links are all like "you can download the first half of the file at reasonable speeds, but the second half of the file will be downloaded at dial up speeds unless you pay more" no dude I already paid for the game. find a better upload site.
Hello, don't pay attention to others. films, there are quite a few of them. And for some reason, they don't ban them. This is one 2) nothing, there is no such thing in the game. You choose how to play. And in general, it's just a game. 3) those who don't understand, that's their problem. Those who have problems with their heads and can't distinguish between virtuality and reality. And you explained everything, it should be clear to everyone. What is the game about. And what kind of game
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those content creators are crazy, i dont see any of the problems they state. plus its meant to be a gooner game. i like this game a lot ! <3
Will we get more chapters or thats it just 7
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Hello Zeratgames sorry for taking up your time but the game simply isnt working for me i am on a mac and wondering wether im making a mistake or if you have heard such complaints before. best wishes.
Greetings everyone, I want to express my opinion about the situation that this game has become a catalyst for. Many people say that games are just games, they are harmless, because after playing GTA you don't want to kill all the people in real life. But in fact, games lead to desensitization, i.e. loss of sensitivity of certain things. And the desensitization of incest and rape is very bad, because rape is still a socially acute and significant topic, and the loss of sensitivity to the problem as a very significant one means that the solution to this problem will be delayed. In the case of murders, this is already an axiom, murder is a sin, you will go to prison for murder, and the topic of rape has only recently been established as something that deserves capital punishment and is still not fully understood. Rape is not a harmless fetish, because it implies coercion, as well as zoophilia, as well as pedophilia. Should we wait for a game about zoophilia and pedophilia now if we give this game the green light? People who support the developer and express their position by saying that FREEDOM FOR CREATIVITY, DOWN WITH MORALISTS, LONG LIVE FUN, I'm nobody to judge you. And I think I have nothing to talk about with you, and I won't be able to convince you, just like you can convince me, so you don't have to tell me which bad moralists censored your games. Have a good day everyone.
Interesting drawing,and its so delightfully harmless like just like finger and done goes
P.s. i saved this image,this is what i needed in arfuments
It's sweet that you took the time to create this picture! Keep my picture in response! :D
Oh my here we go again this remins me same shit of lolicon hentai,but there also comes idea of characters like nobara or penny goon and they start to same idea,teen isnt small but what gives idea is that fiction is fiction there always will be both sides of this theme
"Desensitization" happened over the years when it comes to violent movies as well. Many movies from the 70s and 80s were deemed to be to be too extreme back then and today nobody really cares. Evil Dead was banned in Germany for quite some times and now you can see it as long as you are 16 or older - even in Germany which probably has the most extreem youth protection laws one could imagine. The reason for this is that people are used to see this sort of FICTIONAL violence now so it does not shock them anymore. However they are aware that it is just a movie. The same thing does NOT apply to the real world. You won't go out, see a person ripped to shreds and say to yourself "Oh, I've seen this in Evil Dead - it does not shock me".
So as long as you are aware that this game is only telling a fictional story how could it desesitize you for real events? Both things are completely different. I mean - this is not even an actual game in which you are allowed to control your character and even though the render do look pretty good they are still far from looking real. You are basically watching a storybook with some animated scenes in it about a pretty dark story with a psychological background. So why again should I now have any more desire to go out and abuse women just because I watched a storybook about a sick kid and clicked on some choice buttons to branch inside the story?
Do you think that fictional stories cannot reflect on reality, simply because of the separation of the fictional and the real? I think so, maybe I'm wrong. It's probably not the fault of the game here, and it's just my fears that people will be indifferent to one more thing. But thank you for clarifying that it is unlikely that people will imitate the game and devalue the problem because of its demonstration.
By the way, what do you think about such a thing as the formation of tastes in games? Let's say that rape games became a hit and they started being released in batches, and this formed a new taste among the players. Comparatively like some anime girls who look and behave like small children, but they have been credited with 300 years of life, therefore porn with them is "legal", people have formed expectations and desires for this in reality. We can say that the media is not to blame, the people are to blame, but I adhere to the position that the authors themselves create their audience, that they are responsible for appropriating the audience.
Rome did not have internet and yet they committed rape by kidnapping women in the Sabines and populating their cities with homeless vagrant men. Rape has been around for centuries, and yet everyone is bitching about fictional women in a game and ignoring child marriages in third world countries. You are a rape supporter focusing on fictional characters instead of the situation in Somalia or Afghanistan. Women's rights are a joke to you and it shows.
Am I now unable to express my thoughts and opinions about fictional things and their impact simply because I am inactive or not saying things about real horrific situations? Your argument is quite radical, "if not one thing, it means absolutely the opposite," "if you don't do anything or don't mention it, it means you encourage." He has a right to exist. But to your chagrin, I'm not in a position right now to take active action for real things. I can only talk about something so small now, compared to the situations in Afghanistan or Somalia, so that maybe later I can learn to understand more complex things. I'm sorry if I offended you, and have a nice day.
Thanks for your two cents, mom. Speaking of which, my mother used to say the same thing.
i really love that we get to choose a Dom orLove ending. The point system (lust/dom) is a clever little system that i wish more games like this used. I cant wait to see whats to come for this game and future projects from Zeratgames.
You are what you sell. I find this game disgusting.
And you have every right to have this opinion. Does not change the fact that it is a game and nothing more.
You are absolutely every right to have this opinion too. The problem are the people who can not distinguish, they think "oh i am not the only one and therefore i can do that". And yes i am not a fan of free speech. The humans need limits.
Just read the commentaries here, proof enough.
Preach your woke virtue signaling somewhere else.
Don't know if i am woke or not. Just know this game goes to far.
We respect every opinion here, so yours as well. Can you just answer where the main character meets Nicole's sister for the first time? ;)
So don't play it. Which apparently you never did anyway.
Funny thing is that facebook was already filled with shitty comments and going from one media to another is pointless
Exactly. The problem ARE the people that cannot distinguish between fiction and reality ... but THEY are the problem and not the game. Normal adult people are absolutely capable of seeing the difference - those who don't have a psychological problem that probably will get problematic with and without such games.
I also read ALL comments here in this thread (I was curious if I would find some arguments that would give me actual insight on the question why anybody could be afraid of a game people play in their rooms) and though there were some insults coming from BOTH sides I could not find anything that I would consider to be proof that free speech needs limits. Call to violence, doxing and things like that ... because these are really dangerous.
Would you play this game if men would be raped ?
Yeah because it's FICTION. Go focus on real crimes and not fictional characters.
What do you sell?
B2B normal stuff, you ?
Express you opinion how you will. Just don't buy the game and your feelings will carry on. I have played it and its quite good. Needs polish.
And you ignore the rape of young girls in child marriages in the middle east and tribal Mogadishu by focusing on fictional characters.
What has that to do with this game ? And why do you think i am ignoring things wich i even do not know ?
Focus
You're so focused on these fictional characters you don't even notice real rape and child marriages? Thanks for confirming what I already said. You draw all attention away from real rape by focusing on a fictional character. Your actions here support real rape.
You're so focused you even do not see any more how agressive you are. I understand now, you need this game to come down, right now? How poor.
I bought the game solely because of the witch hunt from women were doing on twitter and media. After playing the game, it was nothing like what they said. There are much worse games, including on steam, but I won't mention to not expose them. You have to be careful that games like this don't escape the bubble.
i love this game i have 200+ hrs
you are a demon
that is some crazy dedication my friend
I belive gore can be worse than rape but i wont ask names of course,and its on steam,of course hypocrites
I was able to open the app after i downloaded 2 days ago from the 2nd verison of the mac file. Now it wont open at all. Any suggestions?
Anyone please tell me how to unlock “ total domination” ? I can’t unlock this achievement.
yeah just get up and lay down in the middle of the road. Youll definitely get a total domination
Its for the domination route ending. On steam or down below, if its blocked in youre country, is the walktrough to get it.
in short you have to dominate nicolle enough times, "breaking" into her bedchamper, doant let her go to work without using her, doant believe her in the club toilet are some important points.
Okay, I guess I unlocked all achievements, one secret achievement (are there more?) and all scenes inclusing the secret ending. The secret ending is absolutely great though I have no idea what these "institution" should be. The name of the achievement is absolutely fitting since I thought the exact same thing.
@zeratgames: There's something wrong if you don't go to the club at all. Even if you are on the love path in that case the ending will start with the last act and the last act is in domination mode.
How do you get the secret ending?
after completing love and/or dom route you have to reach the end with no true path unlocked
What bregoran said.
Easiest way is to go the dom route and don't have sex in the club. If you are on the love routre and go to the club I guess you cannot prevent to have sex and if you skip the club completely (go to sleep) the game suddenly will end at the last act (seems to be a bug for me).
you’re all disgusting and I hope you all rot.
Rotting for playing a videogame ... sure.
Honestly it would not be worth my time to enter a comment section of a game I dislike just to tell people that those who play it are bad people in my eyes. But if it makes you feel better ... okay.
Womp womp
For playing a video game you're not into? You sound like nothing but an insecure brat who seriously needs to go solve actual real world crimes for once.
They all want to complain about fictional women instead of volunteering at a women's shelter... Kinda hypocritical, isn't it?
Most of us didn't even know this game existed prior to people like yourself that hate it causing an uproar and getting it removed from steam. Steam gets hundreds to thousands of games uploaded every single month. The fastest way to kill it would have been to totally ignore it, causing the drama is only going to benefit the dev.
Not only do they get free massive advertising but itch only take a 10% cut on sales versus steam taking a 30% sales cut. So realistically all of this is only going to benefit the dev and give them more money to create more of the content that you hate.I'm not saying that you're wrong or that the dev is right in having made this VN, I haven't played it yet. That being said I have bought it so I can see how heinous it actually is and judge for myself which in turn is supporting the dev financially.
Again I can't stress enough that this dev wouldn't have ever received my money if it wasn't for me discovering the game via a content creator making a big deal about it.
So regardless of whether this game does end up being as heinous and evil as everyone is shouting about or not... Know that your adverse reaction to it is only ever helping it grow and changing that is the only way to ever have any meaningful impact on it.
Maybe instead of blaming women for obviously hating a game like this you should hate the men who provide an audience for this kind of stuff.
have you read smut written by and for women? this game is small potatoes by raw comparison
@Echo389 I've seen what you mean. These whiney idiots are hypocrites.
I am a woman and I bought this because it's hot. Maybe instead of focusing on fictional characters you should spend your time helping rape victims by volunteering at a local women's shelter
Hi I'm a rape victim who copes with my trauma in a safe and non harmful through games such as this one. Should I also rot?
Hey also a rape victim! Just because it’s a coping mechanism doesn’t mean it isn’t harmful! Playing a game where you take away women’s bodily autonomy isn’t a good coping mechanism and you should seek out therapy to find a more healthy form of coping!
If I had nickel for everytime I've heard this I'd be rich. Look I understand the desire to be kind and to heal but this stuff is fantasy and stays firmly in that realm for me. Unlike actual assault there is no harm that comes from this stuff even if a person enjoys it for simple sexual gratification. There is no fight to be won here, it's just people jerking off.
Look at the ratio, sweetie. You're fine. You're a strong individual that copes with fictional characters while Lilies is lashing out with hatred and hypocrisy. You're not surviving, you're thriving.
neither does blaming men for something they havent done. people here are just gamers. take your own advice and get help if this bothers you so much
did u like the feel of it , it feels good when i do it because it gives me a tingling sensation
You're here posting, like the rest of us. Why do you care if anyone buys this? Nobody cares if you play Mickey Mouse and the Enchanted Petting Zoo or whatever it is you like. Ever kill anything in a game? Disgusting. Ever accept a reward for helping the weak or innocent, after a quest? Disgusting. Do you like games that were made with Javascript? Disgusting! Why don't you tell us what kinds of games you play, so that we can judge you? I bet we'll find something disgusting on your list.
Having said that, I don't own this game yet, but I plan to buy it just because Steam banned it. The stuff I've heard is in this game doesn't interest me, but banned games do. (as long as they're legal to sell)
Cry me a river about it why don't ya?
U mad bro?
You screechers are pathetic. Shut up and mind your own business about what people are playing. The only thing you're accomplishing bitching about this game is embarrassing yourself.
Pretty hypocritical considering you support multiple games with non-consensual content.
In addition to non-con, some of Love Lock's fetishes include abduction, stalking, choking and predator/prey. Another game has assault, kidnapping, necrophilia and cannibalism. Yet another game you support has as planned content gore/amputation/beheadings, drugging people and implied child abuse.
Take your outrage and virtue signaling and go support some real life women like those that are second class citizens or worse in some countries.
https://devpolicy.org/the-continuing-ban-on-girls-education-in-afghanistan-20250...
May include Spanish
@zeratgames: At the end of episode 4 after the kiss the text says "Nicole" no matter if the player chose another name for her character.
Heard of this game through the news of its banning/ being pulled from steam. Definitely more than just a 'rape sim' as many people are convinced it is. First 3d vn iv played usually avoid them when steam recommends them feeling they look cheap. Usually play JP vn and eroge and used to stuff like clockups euphoria. Was surprised by the quality after finishing my first playthrough. Some honestly good cinematic shots and camera framing the use of music set the mood for certain scenes well. Would have like some scenes to have been more animated instead of the slide shows. Some plot points felt like the ended abruptly and not as I was expecting. Maybe if it was longer could have been more fleshed out but overall enjoyed the game and story.
Nichole best girl very sexy especially when balling her eyes out. Loved watching her slowly break over time. More sobbing and gagging VO work would have been nice. Eve was more of a funny side story being a walking porno parody. And Tommy's mom kinda felt random.
Hopefully this outrage doesn't scare off the dev from making more games like this. I'm excited to see if more episodes will be added later or the next project. Keep up the work!!
How do you unlock eves wet dream?
I need help downloading this game. If anyone knows any way to download please let me know as soon as possible. It would be much appreciated.
Would be to just check through the links provided, download speed may be slow, and best to also have adblock on since some have popup websites.
Just finished the game with the love ending and the domination ending. However given the final scene in the epilogue of the domination ending I am wondering how the two scenes before this (Aunt/Tommy's Mom) would fit here. I won't say more because these would be extreme spoilers ... but I guess it is a bug and hope that the devs will read this.
Honestly, I would never have known about this game without the controversy. I don't like anyone telling me what I can and cannot think, do, or enjoy. So I had to see for myself.
The game is fine and not quite as linear as people think. Don't be compliant, be defiant.
My gf and I are actually fans of this VN. It was erotically fun. I can understand where people will hate it but it doesn’t deserve to be censored.
cultured couple right here, try "project passion(steam)" & "eternum (itch.io)". enjoy.
thank you. We both enjoyed this so similar will always be welcomed!
oh ong fr project passion is WORTH if you love sci fi and mass effect game series. eternum is also worth for the fantasy. both 10/10 games
My man !! So many cultured people. feeling right at home XD. Finished both games just a while ago, waiting for S3 of Projekt Passion and 0.9 update of Eternum. Man its so damn good !!
Yes, my wife and I particularly liked the scene in that dirty club bathroom. It made us nostalgic about the dirty shit that we would do in sixth street bars in our 20s.
will the game support other languages later?
I went out of my way to avoid regional restrictions and the absence of SWIFT in my region just to buy this game, while not being sure if I even want to play it - only to prove a point and to get my money to the devs. Developers, you are great, stand strong. Much love.
because of human, u can have this game and because of human u cant play this game. just a personal thought...
Eve's wet dreams, you have to choose the right answeres on the phone to see it
Download not working?
Me to
does the dev has a discord server? If so can anyone post it up please
The secrets achievement page seems to have enough space for two secret achievements, one's unlocked by allowing Gary to do 100 pushups, what's the other?
I was trying to figure that out too but unfortunately I can't find any clue
Anything for the Beavers
I'd download it but can anyone send me the game save file completed? discord: fantasmo.1
Pls send it
To hell with the woke agenda and their sensitive snowflakes this game is right up there with the desert stalker and treasure of Nadia series...awesome game keep up the good work don't let the close minded and easily offended stop you from making something great that so many enjoy it's just a game and ones perspective view of his own creativity to bring joy and fun to the adult gaming community...keep it up and keep your head held high bro the snowflakes can go find a woke agenda to deal with In some deep dark cave in the pits of hell...screw em...good work and good job broski
P.s. and if steam wants to drop all the adult vns it'll be a set back but the true fans and supporters will still be there to back up the support for the devs
Yeah these people are ruining everything once they try and "fix" one issue they will try to censor and "fix" another! they need to just disappear! we need to fight back! ✊💯
Why are they? Or is it just an if?
Right now steam is trying to remove the adult visual novels to avoid fallback from controversial (let's say interests that may conflict morally with the public eye and the woke movement isn't helping this process...and the gen ex non binary thing is just another supporting problem backing the woke movement so really it all comes down to politics business but it'll be the developers that get hit the hardest...I feel bad for them...due to the punishment for there creativity.
@Horizon89 Bro Woke agenda,LGBTQ, Feminist went heat over this game than the other adult game all we can do is push it back against these ppl who tried to ruin our fun yet again there's no place here for them either better say than sorry
I'm actually considering getting into web development to build a safe haven for developers like this and fight against the woke agenda but I have a lot to learn about web development and legalities over it all before I can step that direction...because there isn't a safe haven for developers with this kind of creativity and a few other touchy adult vns...but that's going to take time I truly hope this dev doesn't let to fall back stop him from finishing this game....it's a time crunch all the way around
Your biggest hurdle will be payment methods. As that's how they really censor these type of games. Short of going back to Money orders or Checks.
Not my type of game, but censorship is a big no for me. I wish nothing less than the best for the devs! 🥰🙏
Exactly just because you dont like something or it doesn't align wth your views doesn't mean you should censor it for others to play! We need to give those censorship puritans ALOT of push back!
Is this still being worked on? I've discovered a few issues both with text and just "how did that happen" not sure if path corrections, or extra aspects are still being planned.
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one of the bnest games ive ever played i have unlocked all the scenes and achievement i really really really hope you make more games and that there is more content coming
guys do you have walkthrough of all episode? need to get all of the achievement.
there is one in steam but its region locked, can not see it from germany for example.
Credit to the dev, obviously, for anyone that can't access it, and just in case it becomes unavailable in the future:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3453729335
Prologue
Choose Hard Mode. - > Yes.
Type your name, and choose relationship with the characters ingame.
Yes i am an Adult and i am more than 18 years old
Choose this option if you are 18 or ABOVE.
Unfortunately i'm not that old.
Choose this option if you are less than 18 years old
...AND IF YOU EVER LIE IN STEAM PREFERENCES AGAIN, I'LL KICK YOUR ASS AND TELL YOUR MOM - AND TRUST ME, I KNOW HOW TO TALK TO MOMS.
Episode 1
If any answer is skipped, it means it's not important.
Tommy:
Take the money
Tommy's Mom
For such a pretty girl... -> Yeah, that's me -> Sure
If you are interested in sharing content, tell Tommy about the meeting.
Talk to Tommy -> Tell Him
Tommy's Mom again
Can't we just get to know... -> Shut Up -> *Grab her tits*
Gary - University
Yeah, He's Ok.
If you choose the second option, you will get negative points in your relationship with the Father, which during one of the endings will have enormous significance.
Nicole
So it's my fault? -> But i'm very glad i saw it. -> Just thinking about these... -> Who said something about money? -> I' a fan of your body -> I will take good care... -> Grab the straps.
Episode 2
If any answer is skipped, it means it's not important.
Sheilla
Hey, Did you really mean... -> Throw the money in her face
Nicole
Leave the TV on
Take a look at her body -> You should have tempted him -> You gave me a handjob
You are so good at this x3 , Admit it x2 -> Touch her ♥♥♥♥♥ -> Force her
I'm so sorry...
This option will give you the first points for the love route.
Episode 3
If any answer is skipped, it means it's not important.
Dad
Because you're sleeping with...
Nicole
Leave the TV on
Push the door -> type "Hello" -> Nothing happened, right Nicole?
B -> Show her the video -> Get on her lap -> Grab her hands -> ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ -> She definitely need more. -> Try fingering x3
Episode 4
If any answer is skipped, it means it's not important.
No Mercy
Dad
Pick up the phone -> Sure dad, no problem.
Nicole
From the day you stopped... -> That you and me will c@m while... -> What's the problem? -> Kiss (For Achievement)
Cunnilingus her -> DONT PICK ANYTHING x3
F@ck her mouth -> Put your hand on her leg
Aunt
Eve's choices are not that important now (it will change only dialogue)
Computer
Open browser -> Kick the computer -> Open History -> Delete History
Aunt
Eve's choices are not that important now (it will change only dialogue)
Photo
This dress -> I'v seen this date somewhere -> Very nice watch -> type LOPEZ
Nicole
Because i'm the only thing... -> You are beautiful... -> Order her to clean -> Kiss her
Episode 5
If any answer is skipped, it means it's not important.
Nicole - Balcony
Offer her a Cigarette X2 -> I like it when you take something... -> Look at her legs
How are you? -> Are you drinking again? -> Grab her head
Eve - Phone
So you were thinking... -> Just Talk? -> What are you wearing? -> I will ♥♥♥
Nicole - Morning
DOMINATION ROUTE
(This path will earn you 2 achievements and the Speed Perk.)
Unbutton her blouse -> I'll consider it if you... -> Grab her by the hair
To get the perk, you must complete the minigame at a speed of at least 2.1x+. This means you need to "make a mistake" at least once.
LOVE ROUTE
The key moment is when you stop doing anything further when Nicole asks you to (meaning, don’t pull her by the hair onto the couch). However, this isn’t a decisive moment, and later on, you'll still have the chance to change the path.
A phone conversation on the couch.
The conversations don't have much impact, but they serve as a supplement to the storyline.
Store
Go to the store -> click on anything -> If you are on the DOM route and have a Speedperk, you will be able to catch the thief. Taking the purse will save you from scratching scratch cards, but you will receive negative points in your relationship with Father, which may affect the ending of the story.
Collect your package -> Ask about something special for dates -> Buy blindfold (if you want sharing scene) > Leave shop
Call Gary (If you wait until 100 push-ups, you will see a short animation and a hidden achievement (not available on Steam)) -> Visit Tommy -> Code "10104"
Tommy's house
If you want a sharing scene, cover her eyes with blindfold and let Tommy join in.
In this scene, you can earn several achievements. To do this, you must see all possible endings. The threesome scene and the two "solo" endings. At one point, you also need to kiss her when the timer appears on the screen.
In front of tommy's house
You can sell him hard drugs, weed, or none at all. If you choose hard drugs, it will completely change Tommy's mom's behavior, and also lead to a different ending to their story. It will also allow you to unlock the additional final scene in Episode 6.
Store
Go back to the store.
Scratch some cards - you need to have at least 110$ after you bought everything.
Eve
Take a bus to Eve -> Give her white wine -> You can force her for an additional animation and then roll back and watch some movies with her.
You can stay for the night (Animation and achievement) or be kind and leave. (Don't be rude to her if you don't want to block her path).
Evening with Nicole
Return Home -> Tought talk for a cheating... -> You've been such... -> Give her lingerie and red wine. -> Ask for a favor ->
Go to her bedroom if you want to continue the Dom Route (Achievement).
You can also enter, and you'll still have the option to choose the Love Route later, but at this point, your previous choices will be important. If you’ve been rude to Nicole the whole time, you might have the Love Route blocked later on, so to avoid the risk – let her sleep.
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It’s possible that you will have information stating that you earned 22 out of 24 achievements – this is because you skipped some scenes (e.g., the night at Eve's).
Episode 6
If any answer is skipped, it means it's not important.
Nicole morning (only if you entered the bedroom)
DOM ROUTE
Well... you did, to me -> Nope. You didn't. -> The only thing you need to... -> Choke Her
LOVE ROUTE
Well... you did, to me -> I didn’t want you to feel used...
Eve
You can choose what you want her to do.
Player bedroom
Call Dad
If for some reason you don't have $100, call your Father. If you have a good relationship with him, you can ask him for money at the cost of your relationship, or simply talk to him normally to further increase that value.
He won't help you if you took the wallet instead of giving it back to the old lady!
Call Tommy
If you sold him hard drugs earlier, you will see the NTR scene.
Rent a car
Required to go to the club with Nicole.
Visit police officer
You can choose this to learn more about the storyline.
Go to sleep
If you sold hard drugs to Tommy, you will see an additional scene with Tommy's mom + an achievement.
Invite Nicole
DOM ROUTE
With whose permission?
LOVE ROUTE
If you needed any time, that time should be spent together.
Before Club
DOM ROUTE
Just remember, I’ll be watching you. -> Wait until she gets out on her own to watch -> You bet she is. Isn't that right, bubble butt?
LOVE ROUTE
Gotta give it to you, you look hot in that dress. -> Open the door for her -> Yeah, she's a real MILF.
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Inside Club
You need to buy her tequila once and mojito once. The third choice doesn't matter.
If you want to unlock the love route ending, you need to dance both sequences correctly – the third one isn't important.
DOM ROUTE ending
I think that’s ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Spank her 5x times for achievement.
LOVE ROUTE ending
Okay, if you say so... Let’s head back to the car
Episode 7
If any answer is skipped, it means it's not important.
Nicole - Morning
At this point, your path has already been set. If by the end of episode 6 you haven't seen any ending involving sex, you've ended up on a path that will result in a non-positive ending. However, if you return to it after viewing one of the positive endings, you'll unlock a hidden ending (Only in Hard Mode!).
Tommy's mom scene - Wander around the city
To see it, you cannot sell hard drugs to Tommy.
During the conversation in the restaurant, if you want Tommy to join, ask his mom where he is. and then -> Yeah... Experienced.
Eve scene - additional one
Don't leave spa - just wait
Conqueror achievement - During Nicole S*x Scene
To unlock the Conqueror achievement, you need to click 'an*l' for the third time when you reach the maximum level of arousal.
Fight censorship of video games at all costs! Dont bend the knee to the feminist nonsense and the woke nonsense! ✊💯
any one got a save file i can use that has all scenes unlocked? Missing a few and there is only so many times you can replay the game in a short time to try unlock them. add me on discord if you wanna send me your save file with all scenes unlocked. Discord name: Narque
Thank you zerat for a great game :)
Loving the game! Can anyone help me with 1 Achievement and 1 scene unlock? I'm missing Night Stalker and I have no idea, and the only scene I'm missing is between Ep6 Nicole Love ending and Ep7 Good morning (Dom) It's been driving me crazy! Any help would be much appreciated!
The scene you are missing is the Nightstalker scene too.
For both follow Tommys mom route and give tommy in ep5 after the mother scene (no middlefinger) hard drugs. on the ep6 evening doant go to the club, insteat go to sleep and you will get the scene and achievement.
Do you have discord or something? I'm stuck doing some achievements. Also how do you unlock anal?
Thanks! I actually found an old post with a full description just before you posted... Always the way!.. >_<
Have you been able to unlock the anal scene? I can't figure out what to do
Do random poses until you're above 4 points, then do anal, then keep switching between anal and any other pose. Make sure the last pose is anal to get the achievement.
my problem right now is that, after you pay for the game, the download links are all like "you can download the first half of the file at reasonable speeds, but the second half of the file will be downloaded at dial up speeds unless you pay more" no dude I already paid for the game. find a better upload site.
awesome game. i love nicole and aunt.
Hello, don't pay attention to others. films, there are quite a few of them. And for some reason, they don't ban them. This is one 2) nothing, there is no such thing in the game. You choose how to play. And in general, it's just a game.
3) those who don't understand, that's their problem. Those who have problems with their heads and can't distinguish between virtuality and reality.
And you explained everything, it should be clear to everyone. What is the game about. And what kind of game