I'm not usually that interested in VNs (they bore me), but with the censorship and concerntrolling going on, man, you couldn't have asked for a better ad campaign, huh? I'm tempted to get it just to stick it to the karens.
These hypocritical leftist countries won't ban or restrict Roblox, VRChat or Minecraft despite those games kids ACTUALLY get groomed and abused through the chat features of. VRChat can get downloaded by kids on Steam and no BBC articles. Not fictional characters... actual abuse... just something for you to ponder.
NYC Garbage Cubes by Justin Gignac, Piss Christ by Andres Serrano, Artist's Shit by Piero Manzoni, And for Today...Nothing by Stuart Brisley, My Bed by Tracey Emin and Venus de Milo out of Excrement by Zhu Cheng, I could keep going. My point is, there is no definition of art.
Is this art? Fuck if I know and that's the point. Are tampon earrings art? To me, no but am I going to tell the feminist at Rice University they can't wear them? No, I'm not. You wanna know why? Because who the hell am I? Who am I to tell someone what they can and can't buy with their money? What makes me so important that I can impose my view on someone else?
This doesn't hurt anyone any more than a Lifetime Movie hurts me. I know it is absolutely horrible. It makes a mockery of an art/skill that people have labored over for decades. I'm not talking about the game; I'm talking about Lifetime Movies. That's why I DON'T FUCKING WATCH THEM!
Have I played the game? Nope. Did I give money? Yep. Just because the same media that never said anything about Epstien or Cosby and the same people that voted for a President that was declared liable for battery and defamation (reminder that battery includes: rape, sexual abuse, forcible touching) and the same churches that hid and condoned years of child sexual abuse should not be the preponderant influence of ethics anymore.
Wow. That was a bit of a tirade huh? Welp, any who-sie whats-it. I'll talk to you guys later. Peace
I came across this game because of a TikTok ranting about the"sick" content. First of all, I'm a grown ass woman and if your kid found a way to purchase and play this game, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM! Second of all, I'm pretty sure your father/brother/boyfriend/husband have watched some "interesting" porn (to put it that way) in ther lifetimes, and I'm sure they are still great people and didn't turn into predators or creeps. Right? This is a GAME, as in, it is NOT real. It's supposed to be entertaining and fun because it's fiction. Why are women such hypocrites? It's okay to be on booktok and read about rape and monsters almost breaking you in two with ther ginormous dicks, but this game for ADULTS is crossing the line? Okay.
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This is my account, and the comment above is my wife's. She's awesome and I love her. Fuck censorship, wokeness and cancel culture, we don't need that in video games.
After reading many comments ive learned that these are kinks and fantasies being played out. While this causes degeneracy in society overall.....Why is there not age group restrictions? Is there a way to ensure an adult can only access the game?
I think so. Have CHILDREN register as children so that the disney and saccharine peddlers can sell to an exclusive demographic, into which the intrusion of adults or adult content will be noticeable. That doesn't happen because parents don't want to take the time to register their child... they'd
have every single other person in the world look after their children... and be treated like children..
This game allows those into multiple mainstream kinks (CNC, Pred/Prey, Deg, etc.) a way to explore them safely in a controlled environment and see if those are kinks we want to pursue with a partner. There are books that go way, WAY. farther or "worse" that are unbelievably popular such as Anne Rice's trilogy The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty (fantastic read btw). The banning and attack of this game is an absolute travesty as far as I'm concerned. How in a world where actually detrimental books like 50 Shades becomes best sellers and content like this gets banned is thankfully, beyond my reasoning. Good on ZeratGames for having the integrity to weather the backlash against this game and continue with it. Well done!
Instantly bought this game when I heard about what was going on. I love supporting artists who aren't afraid to explore dark ideas and fantasies. Men need to stop apologizing for being men and having natural desires and fantasies. I hope that you don't let the cancel culture vultures stop you from continuing to make games. You're very talented and will always have a fanbase who will support you in whatever you choose to do. Great work man, hope you are being kind to yourself during all this bullshit.
Just created this account to buy this game. Books like this exist with detailed descriptions so why not just make a 3D game about it... same thing. Just the one is read by a specific gender, so it's ok....
Literally don't own a platform to play this game. I read an article that refused to name the game or dev saying it had been banned off steam
On pure principle that the establishment wants this game gone, I don't. Just because people are trying to hit this game with cancel culture I've gone and paid for it. I'm voting with my wallet against censorship while simultaneously supporting a dev team.
I'm also providing links in the comments of any article refusing to name the game by name
For each negative comment in response to this one I will buy the game again
As a woman same, because there is other dark smut shit like boyfriend to death and yet the only shittalk there in that community is the accountability of the creator OUTSIDE the game.
I add extra $10 for the purchase! I support u bro. Those sensitive bastard who can't separate game from reality I would say those guys are the ones that society should be more concern in the real world. Porn or hentai like rape genre is exist since the dawn of internet existence. These fuckers never try to comprehend that it's not the game fault and always try to be a classic but pathetic SJW.
Wanted to let you know that I legit bought the game just because I heard about the awful situation you found yourself in. It's absolutely nuts how people will cry and flail over fictional content yet look the other way at real-world issues. Stay strong and don't let the haters win.
As a owner of the game on steam you shouldnt listen to the cancel crowd. Its just a work of fiction like many others. Removing the game from steam just because random complains from wokies/lefties who dont even care about the real state of their countries is a very bad precedent for gaming.
yea its all fiction until a child with unsupervised internet access thinks its okay to do all the things in this game and becomes an offender. like do you HEAR yourself. you're the type of person to say "Cookie Powers" is okay if its anime like you should actually Bungee jump without safety.
Well, why not just implement an ID verification code in which you can enable at your local DMV, a one time code that is inaccessible through other PC's? Easy solution, right?
Great job showing us how illogical you are. With that thought process- we should be banning every sort of media,book,movies,series that includes dark themes because terrible parents are incapable of doing their job. The game is rated 18+ for a reason.
It’s not the developers responsibility to cater their content for kids whose parents don’t watch them. It’s a porn game obviously meant for adults so why is this not okay to be on steam but alllll of the other ones are perfectly fine?
We do care about the condition and state of our countries and the rampant pornography industry we condemn it. It is going to be the downfall of society and games like this further the agenda.
I have two dozen hours in the game and have finished the love ending. I am continuing to follow the other storylines. I believe the subtleties in the story and psychology are lost on most, but not on all. It is a rarity to find those things.
I ask that you finish patch 1.1 Looking forward to it. Maybe more?
Haters gonna hate. Ignore them. Put it back up for sale and it will sell.
I don't think people know about them and they would condemn those games as well. Trying to understand the psyche that is into this kind of stuff. Why would you want to assault women for fun?... I can't wrap my head around who wants to do this and why.
Stay Strong Zerat and never ever bend to woke mobs on social media. They are Karens, Betas and the same people who support puberty blockers and chemical castration on kids. Your making a adult game. You have support and you should not stop to appease some deranged mob. Don't fold. If we don't want it then we wont buy it its that simple. Compared to the Japanese this is tame. They don't like it because its a power fantasy that is for males, yet they applaud and cheer for power fantasy of females where men get abused and humiliated (Femdom) yet not a peep.
While I disagree with all the negative bullshit that got the game banned in 3 countries, I am disappointed I paid for it.
There are plenty of games that have all the same fetishes' as this one. Lots of them. I am a harem builder fan. So I generally like games that contain all the hardcore fetishes. But the premise behind this one just plain dumb. The reasoning behind the MC's sudden transformation into a douchebag doesn't make any sense at all. It's like it was written by a 16 year old. The story is just terrible. And the dialogue is elementary.
Good examples of AVNs containing the same elements, and were actually good are Desert Stalker, The Headmaster, Brightlord, or even 3001: A Sex Odyssey is better.
I don't think that the cheating of the mother actually "transformed" the MC. He is a drugdealer and not the nice guy from next door. I think he always had this unhealthy desire for his stepmom/mom whatever and he uses her cheating as an excuse for himself to defend his actions. It is pretty clear that he is a bit crazy and if you read carefully you will see that often reflected in his inner monologue. There's one thing the game does really well: showing that what the MC thinks, the mother/stepmother actually is thinking/feeling and how they act is not always the same.
Don't listen to these self virtue morons. You haven't done anything wrong. You have made a adult game and woke authoritarians are trying to dictate what you can and can't do. You will never please these people. They are just unhappy people that need to fill a void and the rest clap like seals to be relevant.
It's a game. This stuff will exist either way, why do you care what a fictional game has if nobody is being hurt in real life? Do something productive instead of farting over some else and what they make with their skills.
Very true. The problem is they aren't productive or creative so they grow bitter and resentful and they hide it behind their woke shield of virtue to mask it.
By your very definition religion should be banned too , how many adults and children have been raped and murdered over the last 200 years? and yet you are ok with that.
the irony that I was on the fence on buying this game until it was pulled from STEAM. The streisand effect in full effect. Fantasy is not reality. Don't police people's fetishes when they harm literally no-one.
Please, return the game to steam and other stores like GOG.
What you're doing in not illegal, therefore there's no need to fear anyone. These fucking Karens were screeching over the stupidest thing. Even Peach and Samus were too much for them. And now we can't have shit. Everything is boring and sterile. Their only goal is to see men miserable.
Your removal of the game will only fuel those harpies to attack even more developers. And even you will not be able to develop the games you want.
Please put the game back in stores and just ignore people on social media and ban them. I'm never into this type of games but I'll happily support you and even buy copies for my friends.
I know it could be rough on you mentally, but know that these harpies will not stop at this if you give up. They will try to ruin you life if you show the smallest sign of weakness. And know that your fellowman are here to support you.
Just like rock encouraged rebellion and communism? Just like metal encouraged violence and satanism? Just like violent videogames encourage violent actions? Just like anime encourages reducing women to sex pets and pedofilia? Come on, what will be your excuse with those examples?
To be honest, as a European I'm tired of these American/Anglosphere moral panics. From bear to books, from violence to sensuality, from Metal music to Pokémon. And now this. I wished other European countries had more ball to create what they wanted without being so fucking cowards about it.
Even CDPR is now removing parts of the first Witcher game because Karen Americans think it's sexist.
Initially, I had no interest in this game when it first came out to that OTHER gaming platform. But after seeing the controversy before I went to work this morning and learning it was pulled from Steam after I got home, I just had to see if it was on itch. Glad I thought of it. I'm just buying it to give the middle finger to European pro censorship Karens and soy guzzling Redditors (like the ones whining on r/PCGaming) Streisand Effect is 100% real. Congrats, wokies.
The mere fact you mention something that doesn't exist tells me all i need to know, when you realise you have been lied to all your life then you may come to your senses and mind your damn business.
You certainly lack any sense of logic or reason, or perhaps you're just insufferably ignorant. Can't you see how a work of fiction comes from a human mind, and not from reality? I don't think you understand this.
The human mind is capable of dreaming. Have you tried? Sometimes dreams look like nightmares. Good and bad dreams, potentially are both unforgettable and full of emotions. Do my nightmares make me a villain towards society? No.
What makes you a villain, an anti social, is to harm society. Do visual novel readers harm society? You seem to think so. Does your perception of Visual Novelist mindset follow a logical background? Your answer would be funded in ignorance of the human nature, I bet. What is the train of thoughts that brings the players to the streets to start raping women and be misogynistic? I bet you have no idea how people think.
The human thinks with reason because we are half animals, and the animal kingdom, as all others in nature, follow the laws of nature, and all the laws of nature follow reason; nothing is without purpose in nature, everything has its place, everything is logical and balanced.
So, tell me. How is this visual novel negatively impacting society? I expect a reply with no logic backing it.
Something I learned through the years is that what's truly dangerous to society is ignorance, poor education.
You know one big element of ignorance of the human nature in society? Censorship. People have a hard time exploring their nature because the arts exploring it get censored or shamed as immoral.
Morality is the excuse for censorship of the people in power to create fear and control over the ignorant cattle.
"Disgusting" he says, as he looks down to the immoral individuals. Your feeling of empowerment is an illusion. You're a tool.
And yet instead of crusading for your virtue and self congratulation and actually doing something in the real world your instead popping online to tell everyone how amazing and righteous you are by reporting a game that is adult, (But not other adult games like GTA 5, Desert Stalker, Hatred all which have slavery, mass murder , incest and domination sex) but no I must let everyone know how virtuous I am . LOL what a loser.
Hey could you try selling your game on GOG? I wanna test how unbiased they are. I'm serious. If they end up publishing it, then GOG should really get a medal or something for being so legit in their crusade to preserve games as the art medium we consider it. They are currently selling various games that Steam rejected or devs decided to pull out from there. Adults games too.
I hate censorship and the moralists that don't understand human nature nor reason. Sadly I can't support you because I don't like Daz3d VNs. If it was drawn I would totally support your work.
I understand your point. I used to think their ESG policies would rule their standards for what games to host. I'm not 100% sure.
From GOG I read a VN called "Slippery Richar He's Taller than my Husband" (fake western name) which is all about blackmail extortion ntr sex and racist premises of black men as sex beasts in the eye of japanese people, and also racist notions from western people toward japanese people as sexually incompetent at a cultural and physiological level.
So I think maybe GOG has some hope of still be defending freedom of expression, but I must also note that this VN was published in GOG 3 years ago, and maybe things changed. Still, the game is being sold there to this day.
In any case I'm not sure of GOG stance which I why I wished for this dev to try selling it there. Maybe telling us how did it go after.
Long time GOGer here and unfortunately I will have to agree, GOG even refused to sell the uncensored version of "Nie No Hakoniwa - Dollhouse of offerings" even though it has been offered to them. They also refuse to host the announced uncensor patch for Tokyo Clanpool and many anime games on GOG are censored and require offsite patches.GOG simply does not have the backbone to accept this game.
Among those I already mentioned: Huniepop, Kirakira Stars Idol Project (all three games are mosaic'd on GOG but not on Itch.io, Denpasoft, JAST USA, Fakku, MangaGamer or Nutaku), Seed of the Dead 2: Home, Paranoid. Some adult games on GOG are missing the unrated patch completely and in some cases the unrated patch will just give you the mosaic'd version. Take a look at the vndb you will probably find even more.
have this saved to play one day then saw it on steam early this week and then kotaku said it got removed from steam cause of the rp and violence like tons of games on steam dont have one or both all the avn's this is the first one ive seen happen
Why is the male domination fantasy considered so evil? Some people enjoy food that most people find disgusting. Players know this game is a fantasy. They are just normal people who have minor fetish.
Why is it ok to kill an NPC without its consent in GTA?
Found out about this game thanks to unhinged feminists. Streissand Effect at it's finest. Out of thousands of games like this being sold on the +18 store page of Steam, they freak out about this one? Imagine if they saw the stuff the japanese make lmao.
Don't let the fake controversy surrounding this game make you forget about the thousand of novels filled with bestiality, rape and incest writen and sold by women on Amazon.
she probably is a little girl or some weird beta only thinks it goes one way. This is why they are frauds. Adult site are full of dominating Femdom that humiliates and Grapes men but hey that's ok for them.
Oh they have. Pixiv, DLsite and a bunch of others got their CC processing pulled because of these exact same people. It got so bad the Japanese government had to get involved and tell Visa (pressured by the activists) to stop fucking around, as they saw it as an attack on national sovereignty.
But Pixiv, DLsite and Fantia still caved. That's just sad. They not only don't support Visa and MasterCard any more, they even changed the policy and banning certain art tag. All thanks to these idiots who can't spell FICTION.
Exactly. Compared to their stuff and other things on steam this is nothing. This is a power fantasy adult visual novel. Sadly they can't tell between fiction and reality.
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Ahh here you are gain. "Why would you make a comment like this" it must be real and reality" I feel so offended so it must be real". Go out and do some yoga, if you want go and join the Special victim Unit with the police for actual real crimes and do your bit rather than being a woke keyboard then you will be appreciated.
Although that the game is delisted from sale on the steam marketplace, is there still any plans to offer steam keys? I wouldn't mind paying any extra to support creators against this kind of public backlash. People have fetishes, curious about fetishes, engage in roleplay situations, and such as. If someone was to find this kind of content and re-enact it word for word, that's wrong. But to fantacize about it or roleplay as in a fantacy without harming anyone else should be ok. You should not indeed enact on incest with your family spouces, but if your partner is willing to enact or pretend to be such, as like what hundreds of thousands of porn videos enact as a fantacy is up to the end users to consume.
Hello! I am very disappointed that the game was so negatively criticized. I really liked it and I wanted to buy it. But there was this whole stupid scandal( Is there no way to purchase this game? Maybe a key or a gift? I really, really liked your product!(
This game is honestly disgusting and the fact that there are people here who are actually supporting and praising this game is awful. There are real life people who are experiencing this against their will and this game is so ignorant of that fact its dangerous. Glorifying this is not only disgusting, but harmful to the women who have to fear experiencing this every single day, as well as those that may already be going through it. Honestly just think for a second what enjoying something like this really says about you. Its not just a game. This is just plain wrong. This game is reinforcing the idea that its okay or justifiable to do something like this, which is encouraging others to think the same way. Wake up people. Just think for a moment how supporting this game is supporting the very things it stands for. The creator of this game is disgusting and all traces of this work should be wiped from the internet.
Forget Logic. Its all Emotions and Woke fake virtue to cover their empty resentful and bitter lives. They don't know the one from the other. These are not creative people.
ok let’s ban all murder too. GTA should be banned. Squid games? Should be banned. Hunger Games? That author is psycho for making a book about murdering children. People are now gonna get the idea to kill children. Lets get that horrible content banned guys.
Excellent game about the fact that if you cheated on your husband - suffer and humiliate yourself now. And I don't feel sorry for you at all. 5 stars to the author for the idea and implementation. Feminists, fools and other "Free Palestine" should burn in hell! If you have a normal family, normal friends and brains in your head - you will never get into such a situation.
Omg you people are beyond reason. Murder in GTA and other games are nowhere near as sadistic and personal as this. You kill an NPC in GTA and that's it, there is no torture or abuse other than the killing. Not to mention that this game is entirely made based off desire and fetish, things that people act on in the real world. GTA may have you play as a criminal, but that doesn't translate to real world actions because there is nothing motivating you to lead that life, however this game is centered toward people like you who are turned on by these things. The fact that you actively have to seek out content like this, and choose to, definitely gives you a reason to go out and replicate this in real life. Not to mention that its weird and disgusting to get turned on by forcibly having intercourse with someone in the first place, there is no reason why a lack of consent should turn you on. Cheating is not a reasonable offense for any of the things that these women are being subjected to in this game. Just because someone does wrong doesn't make it okay to wrong someone back and that's exactly what the law is here for, to prevent creeps that think like you from finding a way to justify and get away with things like this. If your mom, or sister, or daughter, or friend ever ended up cheating on someone, do you think that it would be okay for them to be subjugated to this? Do you think you would be able to stand by and say that the punishment is justified? Think about how any of those people would react if they found out that this is the kind of content that you choose to consume and stand behind.
No, and too bad. Kind of funny you bible thumpers are singling this game out over some article you "read". These aren't "real characters". The story is fictious, there are comics, worse games then this out there, but you lot turn a blind eye to those....why?
Why don't you go complain about all the little kiddy games people are making?
I get that it is “just a game” to some people, but we cannot ignore how things like this shape real attitudes. Rape is way more common than murder, and honestly, it is easier to commit. That is what makes this kind of content so dangerous. It turns something that destroys real lives into entertainment.
When you normalise sexual violence in games, you contribute to a culture that already does not take it seriously. Survivors are disbelieved, perpetrators walk free, and the justice system fails people all the time. Games like this do not just reflect the problem, they reinforce it.
We would never be okay with a game that glorifies child abuse or racism. So why is this treated like it is any less serious?
Look games like this do nothing . do you know what people sayed abot gta ? They sayed the same thing . That those who play it will become criminals and do those things IRL. Has that happened ? No. It is set to adults only. There are disclaimers everywhere. And what are you even talking about when you say "you contribute to a culture that already does not take it seriously." Do you even listen to news these days ? People are losing their lives just for being suspected of that. How many are placed in jail , lose theyr livelihoods just for false accusations of that. You don't even have to have proof of that . And the ones that prove theyr innocence dont even get an apology. It's besose of people like you who go out and fight without any proof . If you dont like the concept or the game just move on . You are not forced to play it or even look at it if you don't like it. Things like this were happening in times when pc's didint exist . They are not changing anything people do what they do and no amount of games will change that and the ones who do not do that will not do that. Go fight battles that matter and stop running people's entertainment just because you don't like it. And this is nothing more than a game .
If your takeaway from "you contribute to a culture that already does not take it seriously." is to talk about how people are accused of rape then you are clearly either purposefully steering the conversation away from the actual point or are just too blind to see it. False allegations do happen, but you know what also happens? The real thing. Nobody is fighting anything without proof here, this game is disgusting and it is reinforcing these incel ideas that women are objects. False allegations have nothing to do with this conversation, your bringing up an unrelated topic to try and justify this game in any way you can. You're missing the entire point of what Me or Doja Duck was saying, these games normalize this kind of behavior and thinking among people like you and, because you guys are turned on by this, causes some of you to go out and actually do these things. This does matter, there's real world effects that games like this have, your entire view of this situation is one of them. You're so gooner brained that you don't draw a line at what your even choosing to watch and, as long as you can get off, anything you watch is a-ok. Something existing for a long time doesn't mean that there shouldn't ever be an effort to remove it from our society, racism and other forms of oppression have existed for longer than you or I have been alive, but that doesn't mean that they are good or prove that they aren't harmful. Once again, GTA gives the player no reason to actually go out and commit violent acts, games like this however fetishize these things and, because you guys get off on that, normalize these ways of thinking and tell you that its okay by vilifying women, which then gives all of you this idea that women are somehow all evil creatures out to get you, which can then lead to you acting out your sick forms of "justice" in the real world on real people. Do research on this instead of just sitting here and defending this game because you enjoy it. It's clear that you aren't educated on the actual effects of games like these so go read articles talking about this issue instead of talking based on words you have been bouncing back at yourself.
Yes my reply to" you contribute to a culture that already does not take it seriously." is to talk about how people are accused of rape . Because how can people not take it seroiousley if that happens? Think about it . How can people end up in jail at mere accusations if it is not taken seriousley ? That statement makes 0 sense. And I'm not saying that real thing doesn't happen . It does and happened before and will happen no matter these games exist or not. It is just a matter of life. And this game does nothing . These are adults we are talking about . Not some kids who can't tell right from wrong . No one is telling you to go out and do those things. if you can't separate games from reality, that is your problem. At that point you should just go to mental hospital. And yes I like those games that dosent mean that I would do anything even close to that . By your logic everyone who likes horror movies or murder mysteries are going to become killers. And talking about GTA it gives the player no reason to actually go out and commit violent acts ? Tell me where does this game tell you or gives you the reason to do that ? If you didint know there is such a thing called CNC it is already a fetish. In CNC you don get off from the fact that it is consencual you get of on the idea that if isn't. But there is the fact that you are dealing with real human being and you make shore that it is consensual and agree on a safeword. The fact that some get off on the idea dosent mean anything. Basically anyone who are out of the norm on theyr preferences should have all theyr content related to that removed and baned because some dimwit might commit crime related to that.
What do you mean I turn a blind eye to them, also "bible thumpers"? When did I ever mention religion or the bible at all? You don't need religion to tell you that this is wrong. Games like this as a whole need to stop and nowhere in any of my comments did I excuse any games like this one or ones that were worse. I hate to break it to you but I'm not usually presented this kind of content because I don't consume it, but now that I have been I'm speaking against it. This is the worst defense to even try to make cause it means nothing. Just because there is worse out there does not make this any better. You are grasping at any way to defend this game because its so obviously wrong. Real characters or not, it doesn't matter, the things depicted in this game are beyond harmful and don't need to contain real life people to enact that harm. Games like these are dangerous and its clear that you don't care about the harm they cause because you enjoy it, so what does it matter the effect it has on the world? As long as you enjoy this twisted stuff you will defend this game to the ends of the earth to try and justify your consumption of it.
Then we have to ban every book, ever movie, every game, and every tv-series where you can find murder, rape, sexual extortion, trafficking and so on. Good people can watch and read terrible stuff and still be good people. This game is not REAL WORLD. Its pure fiction and no one was harmed.
Crying so much over this as if rape/murder/theft etc. books, movies, and artwork haven't exsisted since time immemorial, but yes lets virtue siginal on this one singular game. Believing this type of content promotes certain types of behaviour but then turn a blind eye/ defend on gta which is where the majority of young impressionable teens are is funny. You sound exactly like boomers who cry "video games make you violent" and that was disproven to have no correllation years ago.
You can't compare fiction with reality. That's not how works of fiction work. Plus, you have no right to impose what is morally correct to enjoy or think.
What an idiotic take. By your brilliant logic, movies like Kill Bill and John Wick glorify murder and are offensive to anyone that has lost a friend or family member to murder.
Don't buy it then. Yes it is just a game, because unlike you I know the difference between real and virtual. Seriously stop being a bitter and sad loser who is just trying to score virtue points.
God if only more people would think like this. Truth and reality should never be censored. Censorship is the tool of authoritarians to keep the cattle ignorant and docile.
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Hello, I just bought the game but the download doesnt work, does anyone know anything
Take a look at the download page. There are several mirrors. Try each of them.
I'm not usually that interested in VNs (they bore me), but with the censorship and concerntrolling going on, man, you couldn't have asked for a better ad campaign, huh? I'm tempted to get it just to stick it to the karens.
Tried to buy again via PP keeps giving me an error, If i am unable to buy again, is there a way to get the updates ? ( i have it on steam )
These hypocritical leftist countries won't ban or restrict Roblox, VRChat or Minecraft despite those games kids ACTUALLY get groomed and abused through the chat features of. VRChat can get downloaded by kids on Steam and no BBC articles. Not fictional characters... actual abuse... just something for you to ponder.
"Bad people existing and sometimes using minecraft is the exact same thing as a game about brutal rape!" You're actually mentally retarded, Holy shit
The game that involves and has risks for real children vs a vile 1 player game with fictional characters.
NYC Garbage Cubes by Justin Gignac, Piss Christ by Andres Serrano, Artist's Shit by Piero Manzoni, And for Today...Nothing by Stuart Brisley, My Bed by Tracey Emin and Venus de Milo out of Excrement by Zhu Cheng, I could keep going. My point is, there is no definition of art.
Is this art? Fuck if I know and that's the point. Are tampon earrings art? To me, no but am I going to tell the feminist at Rice University they can't wear them? No, I'm not. You wanna know why? Because who the hell am I? Who am I to tell someone what they can and can't buy with their money? What makes me so important that I can impose my view on someone else?
This doesn't hurt anyone any more than a Lifetime Movie hurts me. I know it is absolutely horrible. It makes a mockery of an art/skill that people have labored over for decades. I'm not talking about the game; I'm talking about Lifetime Movies. That's why I DON'T FUCKING WATCH THEM!
Have I played the game? Nope. Did I give money? Yep. Just because the same media that never said anything about Epstien or Cosby and the same people that voted for a President that was declared liable for battery and defamation (reminder that battery includes: rape, sexual abuse, forcible touching) and the same churches that hid and condoned years of child sexual abuse should not be the preponderant influence of ethics anymore.
Wow. That was a bit of a tirade huh? Welp, any who-sie whats-it. I'll talk to you guys later. Peace
Preach brother.
Quality TedTalk
I'm here because the ruling class doesn't want me to play this.
Lol. Amen brother.
same
download keeps failing half way through . Any ideas what’s up?
I came across this game because of a TikTok ranting about the"sick" content. First of all, I'm a grown ass woman and if your kid found a way to purchase and play this game, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM! Second of all, I'm pretty sure your father/brother/boyfriend/husband have watched some "interesting" porn (to put it that way) in ther lifetimes, and I'm sure they are still great people and didn't turn into predators or creeps. Right? This is a GAME, as in, it is NOT real. It's supposed to be entertaining and fun because it's fiction. Why are women such hypocrites? It's okay to be on booktok and read about rape and monsters almost breaking you in two with ther ginormous dicks, but this game for ADULTS is crossing the line? Okay.
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This is my account, and the comment above is my wife's. She's awesome and I love her. Fuck censorship, wokeness and cancel culture, we don't need that in video games.
After reading many comments ive learned that these are kinks and fantasies being played out. While this causes degeneracy in society overall.....Why is there not age group restrictions? Is there a way to ensure an adult can only access the game?
I think so. Have CHILDREN register as children so that the disney and saccharine peddlers can sell to an exclusive demographic, into which the intrusion of adults or adult content will be noticeable. That doesn't
happen because parents don't want to take the time to register their child... they'd
have every single other person in the world look after their children... and be treated like children..
Society is already degenerate, far worse than this, this is an outlet for those fantasies and it keeps people from doing things like this irl
This game allows those into multiple mainstream kinks (CNC, Pred/Prey, Deg, etc.) a way to explore them safely in a controlled environment and see if those are kinks we want to pursue with a partner. There are books that go way, WAY. farther or "worse" that are unbelievably popular such as Anne Rice's trilogy The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty (fantastic read btw). The banning and attack of this game is an absolute travesty as far as I'm concerned. How in a world where actually detrimental books like 50 Shades becomes best sellers and content like this gets banned is thankfully, beyond my reasoning. Good on ZeratGames for having the integrity to weather the backlash against this game and continue with it. Well done!
This game's real crime is being 10 GB holy shit.
Yeah, if they had tried to cancel it for lazy programming I might have been on board :P. We've all been there though.
not gonna lie your comment made me actually laugh out loud XD
Instantly bought this game when I heard about what was going on. I love supporting artists who aren't afraid to explore dark ideas and fantasies. Men need to stop apologizing for being men and having natural desires and fantasies. I hope that you don't let the cancel culture vultures stop you from continuing to make games. You're very talented and will always have a fanbase who will support you in whatever you choose to do. Great work man, hope you are being kind to yourself during all this bullshit.
So true!
Just created this account to buy this game. Books like this exist with detailed descriptions so why not just make a 3D game about it... same thing. Just the one is read by a specific gender, so it's ok....
The hypocrisy is staggering.
Shame it got deleted from steam this game had lot of potential
Literally don't own a platform to play this game. I read an article that refused to name the game or dev saying it had been banned off steam
On pure principle that the establishment wants this game gone, I don't. Just because people are trying to hit this game with cancel culture I've gone and paid for it. I'm voting with my wallet against censorship while simultaneously supporting a dev team.
I'm also providing links in the comments of any article refusing to name the game by name
For each negative comment in response to this one I will buy the game again
As a woman same, because there is other dark smut shit like boyfriend to death and yet the only shittalk there in that community is the accountability of the creator OUTSIDE the game.
I add extra $10 for the purchase! I support u bro. Those sensitive bastard who can't separate game from reality I would say those guys are the ones that society should be more concern in the real world. Porn or hentai like rape genre is exist since the dawn of internet existence. These fuckers never try to comprehend that it's not the game fault and always try to be a classic but pathetic SJW.
Wanted to let you know that I legit bought the game just because I heard about the awful situation you found yourself in. It's absolutely nuts how people will cry and flail over fictional content yet look the other way at real-world issues. Stay strong and don't let the haters win.
As a owner of the game on steam you shouldnt listen to the cancel crowd. Its just a work of fiction like many others. Removing the game from steam just because random complains from wokies/lefties who dont even care about the real state of their countries is a very bad precedent for gaming.
yea its all fiction until a child with unsupervised internet access thinks its okay to do all the things in this game and becomes an offender. like do you HEAR yourself. you're the type of person to say "Cookie Powers" is okay if its anime like you should actually Bungee jump without safety.
Well, why not just implement an ID verification code in which you can enable at your local DMV, a one time code that is inaccessible through other PC's? Easy solution, right?
Are we really going to force ID verification no one voted for as a society with this faux outrage of a shitty adult game?
If a kid or minor, access the game. Is the parents fault, the game is not free, neither allowed by Steam for minors.
You can also play Katawa Shoujo on steam or many VNs as a minor. This one just get targeted because the UK government nanny news
Great job showing us how illogical you are. With that thought process- we should be banning every sort of media,book,movies,series that includes dark themes because terrible parents are incapable of doing their job. The game is rated 18+ for a reason.
Parents should be supervising their kids. Idk how you see this as the game's fault
It’s not the developers responsibility to cater their content for kids whose parents don’t watch them. It’s a porn game obviously meant for adults so why is this not okay to be on steam but alllll of the other ones are perfectly fine?
So, according to you, "a child with unsupervised internet access" will play GTA5 and then go on a murder spree. Right?
Yet, for some reason, we don't have MILLIONS of 12 year old mass murderers.
Weird. It's almost as if it has been proven, repeatedly, that games do NOT cause people, even children, to do what happens in their games.
We do care about the condition and state of our countries and the rampant pornography industry we condemn it. It is going to be the downfall of society and games like this further the agenda.
I have two dozen hours in the game and have finished the love ending. I am continuing to follow the other storylines. I believe the subtleties in the story and psychology are lost on most, but not on all. It is a rarity to find those things.
I ask that you finish patch 1.1 Looking forward to it. Maybe more?
Haters gonna hate. Ignore them. Put it back up for sale and it will sell.
Agreed.
Resist Censorship and Authoritarianism.
It's for safety of kids. It was available to 12 and above. Why?
So are many many games on Steam? Many with sex. it's the nature of having so many games uploaded per day. Why was this game targeted.
I don't think people know about them and they would condemn those games as well. Trying to understand the psyche that is into this kind of stuff. Why would you want to assault women for fun?... I can't wrap my head around who wants to do this and why.
Stay Strong Zerat and never ever bend to woke mobs on social media. They are Karens, Betas and the same people who support puberty blockers and chemical castration on kids. Your making a adult game. You have support and you should not stop to appease some deranged mob. Don't fold. If we don't want it then we wont buy it its that simple. Compared to the Japanese this is tame. They don't like it because its a power fantasy that is for males, yet they applaud and cheer for power fantasy of females where men get abused and humiliated (Femdom) yet not a peep.
While I disagree with all the negative bullshit that got the game banned in 3 countries, I am disappointed I paid for it.
There are plenty of games that have all the same fetishes' as this one. Lots of them. I am a harem builder fan. So I generally like games that contain all the hardcore fetishes. But the premise behind this one just plain dumb. The reasoning behind the MC's sudden transformation into a douchebag doesn't make any sense at all. It's like it was written by a 16 year old. The story is just terrible. And the dialogue is elementary.
Good examples of AVNs containing the same elements, and were actually good are Desert Stalker, The Headmaster, Brightlord, or even 3001: A Sex Odyssey is better.
Don't recommend. 4/10.
Each to their own. I played it and it requires polish and fixes but I agree I am a fetish harem person myself. 7/10.
Jump.
Double Jump. LOL
I don't think that the cheating of the mother actually "transformed" the MC. He is a drugdealer and not the nice guy from next door. I think he always had this unhealthy desire for his stepmom/mom whatever and he uses her cheating as an excuse for himself to defend his actions. It is pretty clear that he is a bit crazy and if you read carefully you will see that often reflected in his inner monologue. There's one thing the game does really well: showing that what the MC thinks, the mother/stepmother actually is thinking/feeling and how they act is not always the same.
Don't listen to these self virtue morons. You haven't done anything wrong. You have made a adult game and woke authoritarians are trying to dictate what you can and can't do. You will never please these people. They are just unhappy people that need to fill a void and the rest clap like seals to be relevant.
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Missed.
It's a game. This stuff will exist either way, why do you care what a fictional game has if nobody is being hurt in real life? Do something productive instead of farting over some else and what they make with their skills.
Very true. The problem is they aren't productive or creative so they grow bitter and resentful and they hide it behind their woke shield of virtue to mask it.
By your very definition religion should be banned too , how many adults and children have been raped and murdered over the last 200 years? and yet you are ok with that.
macOS won't open the application file as it can't verify it?!
the irony that I was on the fence on buying this game until it was pulled from STEAM. The streisand effect in full effect. Fantasy is not reality. Don't police people's fetishes when they harm literally no-one.
Please, return the game to steam and other stores like GOG.
What you're doing in not illegal, therefore there's no need to fear anyone. These fucking Karens were screeching over the stupidest thing. Even Peach and Samus were too much for them. And now we can't have shit. Everything is boring and sterile. Their only goal is to see men miserable.
Your removal of the game will only fuel those harpies to attack even more developers. And even you will not be able to develop the games you want.
Please put the game back in stores and just ignore people on social media and ban them. I'm never into this type of games but I'll happily support you and even buy copies for my friends.
I know it could be rough on you mentally, but know that these harpies will not stop at this if you give up. They will try to ruin you life if you show the smallest sign of weakness. And know that your fellowman are here to support you.
Good luck.
But things like GTA are allowed to be sold for the masses and have a lot of children playing them. Nobody cares about that, so why this?
Just like rock encouraged rebellion and communism? Just like metal encouraged violence and satanism? Just like violent videogames encourage violent actions? Just like anime encourages reducing women to sex pets and pedofilia? Come on, what will be your excuse with those examples?
To be honest, as a European I'm tired of these American/Anglosphere moral panics. From bear to books, from violence to sensuality, from Metal music to Pokémon. And now this. I wished other European countries had more ball to create what they wanted without being so fucking cowards about it.
Even CDPR is now removing parts of the first Witcher game because Karen Americans think it's sexist.
Agreed.
Initially, I had no interest in this game when it first came out to that OTHER gaming platform. But after seeing the controversy before I went to work this morning and learning it was pulled from Steam after I got home, I just had to see if it was on itch. Glad I thought of it. I'm just buying it to give the middle finger to European pro censorship Karens and soy guzzling Redditors (like the ones whining on r/PCGaming) Streisand Effect is 100% real. Congrats, wokies.
literally the same! I'm from Australia, so censorship and finding ways to just buy direct are common practice for me now.
It's the norm for me, topher
The mere fact you mention something that doesn't exist tells me all i need to know, when you realise you have been lied to all your life then you may come to your senses and mind your damn business.
What if better you remove yourself? that would be better for everybody!
YES SPREAD THIS MESSAGE AROUND
You certainly lack any sense of logic or reason, or perhaps you're just insufferably ignorant. Can't you see how a work of fiction comes from a human mind, and not from reality? I don't think you understand this.
The human mind is capable of dreaming. Have you tried? Sometimes dreams look like nightmares. Good and bad dreams, potentially are both unforgettable and full of emotions. Do my nightmares make me a villain towards society? No.
What makes you a villain, an anti social, is to harm society. Do visual novel readers harm society? You seem to think so. Does your perception of Visual Novelist mindset follow a logical background? Your answer would be funded in ignorance of the human nature, I bet. What is the train of thoughts that brings the players to the streets to start raping women and be misogynistic? I bet you have no idea how people think.
The human thinks with reason because we are half animals, and the animal kingdom, as all others in nature, follow the laws of nature, and all the laws of nature follow reason; nothing is without purpose in nature, everything has its place, everything is logical and balanced.
So, tell me. How is this visual novel negatively impacting society? I expect a reply with no logic backing it.
Something I learned through the years is that what's truly dangerous to society is ignorance, poor education.
You know one big element of ignorance of the human nature in society? Censorship. People have a hard time exploring their nature because the arts exploring it get censored or shamed as immoral.
Morality is the excuse for censorship of the people in power to create fear and control over the ignorant cattle.
"Disgusting" he says, as he looks down to the immoral individuals. Your feeling of empowerment is an illusion. You're a tool.
They are too emotional and dumb to realize it so don't waste your time with them. They live in a different reality and maybe their own perversions.
And yet instead of crusading for your virtue and self congratulation and actually doing something in the real world your instead popping online to tell everyone how amazing and righteous you are by reporting a game that is adult, (But not other adult games like GTA 5, Desert Stalker, Hatred all which have slavery, mass murder , incest and domination sex) but no I must let everyone know how virtuous I am . LOL what a loser.
Hey could you try selling your game on GOG? I wanna test how unbiased they are. I'm serious. If they end up publishing it, then GOG should really get a medal or something for being so legit in their crusade to preserve games as the art medium we consider it. They are currently selling various games that Steam rejected or devs decided to pull out from there. Adults games too.
I hate censorship and the moralists that don't understand human nature nor reason. Sadly I can't support you because I don't like Daz3d VNs. If it was drawn I would totally support your work.
Gog would not sell this game. CDPR is part of the ESG marxist censorship cult.
I understand your point. I used to think their ESG policies would rule their standards for what games to host. I'm not 100% sure.
From GOG I read a VN called "Slippery Richar He's Taller than my Husband" (fake western name) which is all about blackmail extortion ntr sex and racist premises of black men as sex beasts in the eye of japanese people, and also racist notions from western people toward japanese people as sexually incompetent at a cultural and physiological level.
So I think maybe GOG has some hope of still be defending freedom of expression, but I must also note that this VN was published in GOG 3 years ago, and maybe things changed. Still, the game is being sold there to this day.
In any case I'm not sure of GOG stance which I why I wished for this dev to try selling it there. Maybe telling us how did it go after.
Long time GOGer here and unfortunately I will have to agree, GOG even refused to sell the uncensored version of "Nie No Hakoniwa - Dollhouse of offerings" even though it has been offered to them. They also refuse to host the announced uncensor patch for Tokyo Clanpool and many anime games on GOG are censored and require offsite patches.GOG simply does not have the backbone to accept this game.
Can you name an adult game that requires an offsite patch in GOG?
Among those I already mentioned: Huniepop, Kirakira Stars Idol Project (all three games are mosaic'd on GOG but not on Itch.io, Denpasoft, JAST USA, Fakku, MangaGamer or Nutaku), Seed of the Dead 2: Home, Paranoid. Some adult games on GOG are missing the unrated patch completely and in some cases the unrated patch will just give you the mosaic'd version. Take a look at the vndb you will probably find even more.
have this saved to play one day then saw it on steam early this week and then kotaku said it got removed from steam cause of the rp and violence like tons of games on steam dont have one or both all the avn's this is the first one ive seen happen
Kotaku is not a game journalist. Its filled with Woke activists and Sweet baby inc weirdos who are joyless and only know how to destroy and complain.
oh i know they arent it just thats who i found out it was taken off steam from randomly on my fb
Why is the male domination fantasy considered so evil? Some people enjoy food that most people find disgusting. Players know this game is a fantasy. They are just normal people who have minor fetish.
Why is it ok to kill an NPC without its consent in GTA?
I guess "big companies" can get away with digital things that little guys can't. Insane double standard
Found out about this game thanks to unhinged feminists. Streissand Effect at it's finest. Out of thousands of games like this being sold on the +18 store page of Steam, they freak out about this one? Imagine if they saw the stuff the japanese make lmao.
Don't let the fake controversy surrounding this game make you forget about the thousand of novels filled with bestiality, rape and incest writen and sold by women on Amazon.
Imagine they learn about Pixiv lmao.
Womp womp men and women have fantasies you can't control get a damn grip little girl.
she probably is a little girl or some weird beta only thinks it goes one way. This is why they are frauds. Adult site are full of dominating Femdom that humiliates and Grapes men but hey that's ok for them.
Oh they have. Pixiv, DLsite and a bunch of others got their CC processing pulled because of these exact same people. It got so bad the Japanese government had to get involved and tell Visa (pressured by the activists) to stop fucking around, as they saw it as an attack on national sovereignty.
Woah you learn something new every day.
But Pixiv, DLsite and Fantia still caved. That's just sad. They not only don't support Visa and MasterCard any more, they even changed the policy and banning certain art tag. All thanks to these idiots who can't spell FICTION.
Exactly. Compared to their stuff and other things on steam this is nothing. This is a power fantasy adult visual novel. Sadly they can't tell between fiction and reality.
Stop being a pathetic woke idiot. I know the difference between reality and gaming you fool. Stop being a sad self righteous cultist.
Same can be applied to women's fantasy games of male rape. Stop being a sensitive moron. Are you compensating for something you have done?
Do you have any socials?
We don't have a problem with you expressing your own opinions, but please remember that insults, accusations against the developer or other users, or false theories will be removed and will result in a ban.
Ahh here you are gain. "Why would you make a comment like this" it must be real and reality" I feel so offended so it must be real". Go out and do some yoga, if you want go and join the Special victim Unit with the police for actual real crimes and do your bit rather than being a woke keyboard then you will be appreciated.
Although that the game is delisted from sale on the steam marketplace, is there still any plans to offer steam keys? I wouldn't mind paying any extra to support creators against this kind of public backlash. People have fetishes, curious about fetishes, engage in roleplay situations, and such as. If someone was to find this kind of content and re-enact it word for word, that's wrong. But to fantacize about it or roleplay as in a fantacy without harming anyone else should be ok. You should not indeed enact on incest with your family spouces, but if your partner is willing to enact or pretend to be such, as like what hundreds of thousands of porn videos enact as a fantacy is up to the end users to consume.
And I would like to purchase a key!
Hello! I am very disappointed that the game was so negatively criticized. I really liked it and I wanted to buy it. But there was this whole stupid scandal( Is there no way to purchase this game? Maybe a key or a gift? I really, really liked your product!(
This game is honestly disgusting and the fact that there are people here who are actually supporting and praising this game is awful. There are real life people who are experiencing this against their will and this game is so ignorant of that fact its dangerous. Glorifying this is not only disgusting, but harmful to the women who have to fear experiencing this every single day, as well as those that may already be going through it. Honestly just think for a second what enjoying something like this really says about you. Its not just a game. This is just plain wrong. This game is reinforcing the idea that its okay or justifiable to do something like this, which is encouraging others to think the same way. Wake up people. Just think for a moment how supporting this game is supporting the very things it stands for. The creator of this game is disgusting and all traces of this work should be wiped from the internet.
By that logic, the teens that play GTA are all going to become criminals and murders.
By this logic, if every game had this type of content, you'd be okay with it? That actually makes sense to you?
62% of women have fantasies about this. Fantasy is not reality. Games are not reality. You need to learn the difference.
Forget Logic. Its all Emotions and Woke fake virtue to cover their empty resentful and bitter lives. They don't know the one from the other. These are not creative people.
ok let’s ban all murder too. GTA should be banned. Squid games? Should be banned. Hunger Games? That author is psycho for making a book about murdering children. People are now gonna get the idea to kill children. Lets get that horrible content banned guys.
You really are so clueless. You must be one unhappy miserable person.
Excellent game about the fact that if you cheated on your husband - suffer and humiliate yourself now. And I don't feel sorry for you at all. 5 stars to the author for the idea and implementation. Feminists, fools and other "Free Palestine" should burn in hell! If you have a normal family, normal friends and brains in your head - you will never get into such a situation.
are you deadass
Fair enough, each to their own.
Omg you people are beyond reason. Murder in GTA and other games are nowhere near as sadistic and personal as this. You kill an NPC in GTA and that's it, there is no torture or abuse other than the killing. Not to mention that this game is entirely made based off desire and fetish, things that people act on in the real world. GTA may have you play as a criminal, but that doesn't translate to real world actions because there is nothing motivating you to lead that life, however this game is centered toward people like you who are turned on by these things. The fact that you actively have to seek out content like this, and choose to, definitely gives you a reason to go out and replicate this in real life. Not to mention that its weird and disgusting to get turned on by forcibly having intercourse with someone in the first place, there is no reason why a lack of consent should turn you on. Cheating is not a reasonable offense for any of the things that these women are being subjected to in this game. Just because someone does wrong doesn't make it okay to wrong someone back and that's exactly what the law is here for, to prevent creeps that think like you from finding a way to justify and get away with things like this. If your mom, or sister, or daughter, or friend ever ended up cheating on someone, do you think that it would be okay for them to be subjugated to this? Do you think you would be able to stand by and say that the punishment is justified? Think about how any of those people would react if they found out that this is the kind of content that you choose to consume and stand behind.
Did you never play the mission where you literally waterboard a guy with gasoline or hook him up to a car battery?
You are so fucked up in the head. Man, i feel sorry for you, but I shouldn't.
Quack, Quack.
No, and too bad. Kind of funny you bible thumpers are singling this game out over some article you "read". These aren't "real characters". The story is fictious, there are comics, worse games then this out there, but you lot turn a blind eye to those....why?
Why don't you go complain about all the little kiddy games people are making?
I get that it is “just a game” to some people, but we cannot ignore how things like this shape real attitudes. Rape is way more common than murder, and honestly, it is easier to commit. That is what makes this kind of content so dangerous. It turns something that destroys real lives into entertainment.
When you normalise sexual violence in games, you contribute to a culture that already does not take it seriously. Survivors are disbelieved, perpetrators walk free, and the justice system fails people all the time. Games like this do not just reflect the problem, they reinforce it.
We would never be okay with a game that glorifies child abuse or racism. So why is this treated like it is any less serious?
thank you so much for commenting this, you highlight this issue perfectly.
Look games like this do nothing . do you know what people sayed abot gta ? They sayed the same thing . That those who play it will become criminals and do those things IRL. Has that happened ? No. It is set to adults only. There are disclaimers everywhere. And what are you even talking about when you say "you contribute to a culture that already does not take it seriously." Do you even listen to news these days ? People are losing their lives just for being suspected of that. How many are placed in jail , lose theyr livelihoods just for false accusations of that. You don't even have to have proof of that . And the ones that prove theyr innocence dont even get an apology. It's besose of people like you who go out and fight without any proof . If you dont like the concept or the game just move on . You are not forced to play it or even look at it if you don't like it. Things like this were happening in times when pc's didint exist . They are not changing anything people do what they do and no amount of games will change that and the ones who do not do that will not do that. Go fight battles that matter and stop running people's entertainment just because you don't like it. And this is nothing more than a game .
If your takeaway from "you contribute to a culture that already does not take it seriously." is to talk about how people are accused of rape then you are clearly either purposefully steering the conversation away from the actual point or are just too blind to see it. False allegations do happen, but you know what also happens? The real thing. Nobody is fighting anything without proof here, this game is disgusting and it is reinforcing these incel ideas that women are objects. False allegations have nothing to do with this conversation, your bringing up an unrelated topic to try and justify this game in any way you can. You're missing the entire point of what Me or Doja Duck was saying, these games normalize this kind of behavior and thinking among people like you and, because you guys are turned on by this, causes some of you to go out and actually do these things. This does matter, there's real world effects that games like this have, your entire view of this situation is one of them. You're so gooner brained that you don't draw a line at what your even choosing to watch and, as long as you can get off, anything you watch is a-ok. Something existing for a long time doesn't mean that there shouldn't ever be an effort to remove it from our society, racism and other forms of oppression have existed for longer than you or I have been alive, but that doesn't mean that they are good or prove that they aren't harmful. Once again, GTA gives the player no reason to actually go out and commit violent acts, games like this however fetishize these things and, because you guys get off on that, normalize these ways of thinking and tell you that its okay by vilifying women, which then gives all of you this idea that women are somehow all evil creatures out to get you, which can then lead to you acting out your sick forms of "justice" in the real world on real people. Do research on this instead of just sitting here and defending this game because you enjoy it. It's clear that you aren't educated on the actual effects of games like these so go read articles talking about this issue instead of talking based on words you have been bouncing back at yourself.
Yes my reply to" you contribute to a culture that already does not take it seriously." is to talk about how people are accused of rape . Because how can people not take it seroiousley if that happens? Think about it . How can people end up in jail at mere accusations if it is not taken seriousley ? That statement makes 0 sense. And I'm not saying that real thing doesn't happen . It does and happened before and will happen no matter these games exist or not. It is just a matter of life. And this game does nothing . These are adults we are talking about . Not some kids who can't tell right from wrong . No one is telling you to go out and do those things. if you can't separate games from reality, that is your problem. At that point you should just go to mental hospital. And yes I like those games that dosent mean that I would do anything even close to that . By your logic everyone who likes horror movies or murder mysteries are going to become killers. And talking about GTA it gives the player no reason to actually go out and commit violent acts ? Tell me where does this game tell you or gives you the reason to do that ? If you didint know there is such a thing called CNC it is already a fetish. In CNC you don get off from the fact that it is consencual you get of on the idea that if isn't. But there is the fact that you are dealing with real human being and you make shore that it is consensual and agree on a safeword. The fact that some get off on the idea dosent mean anything. Basically anyone who are out of the norm on theyr preferences should have all theyr content related to that removed and baned because some dimwit might commit crime related to that.
Does Call of Duty "No Russian" normalize shooting innocent people at random? Do you even understand what fiction its?
What do you mean I turn a blind eye to them, also "bible thumpers"? When did I ever mention religion or the bible at all? You don't need religion to tell you that this is wrong. Games like this as a whole need to stop and nowhere in any of my comments did I excuse any games like this one or ones that were worse. I hate to break it to you but I'm not usually presented this kind of content because I don't consume it, but now that I have been I'm speaking against it. This is the worst defense to even try to make cause it means nothing. Just because there is worse out there does not make this any better. You are grasping at any way to defend this game because its so obviously wrong. Real characters or not, it doesn't matter, the things depicted in this game are beyond harmful and don't need to contain real life people to enact that harm. Games like these are dangerous and its clear that you don't care about the harm they cause because you enjoy it, so what does it matter the effect it has on the world? As long as you enjoy this twisted stuff you will defend this game to the ends of the earth to try and justify your consumption of it.
well I would rather it be in a game than do it in real life
Correct. You can actually tell the difference.
Then we have to ban every book, ever movie, every game, and every tv-series where you can find murder, rape, sexual extortion, trafficking and so on. Good people can watch and read terrible stuff and still be good people. This game is not REAL WORLD. Its pure fiction and no one was harmed.
Typical Authoritarians.
Crying so much over this as if rape/murder/theft etc. books, movies, and artwork haven't exsisted since time immemorial, but yes lets virtue siginal on this one singular game. Believing this type of content promotes certain types of behaviour but then turn a blind eye/ defend on gta which is where the majority of young impressionable teens are is funny. You sound exactly like boomers who cry "video games make you violent" and that was disproven to have no correllation years ago.
You can't compare fiction with reality. That's not how works of fiction work.
Plus, you have no right to impose what is morally correct to enjoy or think.
This isn't 1984 yet.
Correct. They want 1984 though.
What an idiotic take. By your brilliant logic, movies like Kill Bill and John Wick glorify murder and are offensive to anyone that has lost a friend or family member to murder.
this is so true idk why your getting down votes
Don't buy it then. Yes it is just a game, because unlike you I know the difference between real and virtual. Seriously stop being a bitter and sad loser who is just trying to score virtue points.
You do realize that women love rape fiction right? Go pick up any of the books that women read, it's all about being dominated and rape.
Between 31% and 57% of women have fantasies in which they are forced into sex.
Saw a VGC article about this game, though it didn’t directly mention the game’s name. Stand strong against any censorship 💪
God if only more people would think like this. Truth and reality should never be censored. Censorship is the tool of authoritarians to keep the cattle ignorant and docile.
Correct. These people are frankly fascists.
Exactly as that is their true goal.
will this ever come onto Android?